woodman Posted August 30, 2004 Posted August 30, 2004 i would be grateful for some advise on following; at present i am running with 1 degree on one side and 1/2 degree on other side on list 1a bridgestone re720 tyres. Should i have more camber and if so how much? approx how much does one turn of a std top ball joint alter camber? if i increase camber will the new setting be ok for radial slix? regards stu hill Quote
Richard M Green Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 Stu, The centres ball joints on standard suspension are 220mm apart, and the top ball joint thread is M18 x 1.5. Now according to what the nice Mr Eccles at The Vyne School taught me: Tan theta = opposite/adjacent. Thus change in theta for one turn = Tan-1(1.5/220) or 0.4°. I wouldn't dream of giving you advice on actual camber settings on the grounds that I've never managed to come close to your times....... ......but the Green/Dean Racing SEW is set to -1.5° camber, and I believe that some people run -2° with List 1A tyres. Can't help on the radial slicks question though. Would the manufacturer's Racing Dept offer any advice I wonder? HTH See you at Wiscombe? Quote
Kev Bamber Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 Hi Stu, I currently run 2 deg neggy. how does you car turn in & handle at the moment? - if you need to dial out some understeer I've found up to 2 1/2 degrees assists turn in. Anything beyond that is ineffective. If you are happy with the handling, leave it, if you want to improve the turn-in, wind a bit more on. For our live axle cars, there is very little you can do to alter the rear grip other than springs & shocks (& tyres/TP's), so one that is nailed, make sure you have 3/4" rake on the car, then dial the front grip up or down using camber, toe-in, roll bar until it's neutral (unless you're Tim N, then you set up for wild oversteer) Start point for set-up:- 3/4" rake to front of car, with front lower wishbones horizontal or slightly higher at inboard than wheel end. 1 to 2 Deg Neggy A Gnat's knob of toe out (2mm) ... oh & a bit less timber on the car, you are the only person I know who needs to Cuprinol the car rather that Waxoyl it Kev. Quote
Blatman Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 I didn't think so. Rake is the difference in height between the front and rear of the car.... I'm more familair with the term trail as it's used to describe the fork geometry on a motorbike. The nearest thing to that on a car would be castor... Quote
woodman Posted September 1, 2004 Author Posted September 1, 2004 Thanks Richard for the calc, so its 0-4 per turn, so i can equal out my settings for a start re wiscombe ,i have entered but am on reserve list, but fairly hopeful of a run Kev ,thanks for info ,but what is rake? see you at ty croes on fri stu Quote
Blatman Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 Read the post above your last one, where it says Rake is the difference in height between the front and rear of the car.... See you at Wiscombe, hopefully... Quote
Rob Navin Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 Stu I would recomend that you put adout 45 degrees neggy on the drivers side and 45 degrees positive on the passanger side. At least for any events I am booked in for Rake is something you use to collect leaves in to a pile with HTH Quote
Buzz Billsberry Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 Rake is something you use to collect leaves in to a pile with What's a 'pile with'?? Buzz Quote
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