hilux Posted July 31, 2004 Posted July 31, 2004 here Superb, note the bell housing holds the dry sump reservoir, brilliant IMO Its gonna be megabucks though I`m sure, £8000 a pop? what do you reckon..... Quote
Westfieldman Posted July 31, 2004 Posted July 31, 2004 Its gonna be megabucks though I`m sure, £8000 a pop? what do you reckon..... More like £20,000 I remember seeing something like this one at a show a few years ago for £15,000 Have seen a picture of a show Cateringvan with a BIKE V8 engine in it Quote
stillracin Posted July 31, 2004 Posted July 31, 2004 Looks amazing. Could not see any estimated weights for the engine mentioned though. Initial thoughts are that if it weighs twice that of a Busa engine then we may be losing the late braking tight cornering argument over the CEC boys. That said, it would wallop them on the straights. What do you think? Quote
ChrisG Posted July 31, 2004 Posted July 31, 2004 I dunno, I reckon it probably doesnt weigh much more than a single busa engine, obviously you've got an extra head, 4 extra pistons and the extra cylinders in the block etc, but it doesnt have a gearbox, clutch or associated gubbins which weigh a fair bit in a regular busa. Obviously it means youve got to then add a gearbox to it to make it useable, but a good box would only weigh 30-40kgs so overall it probably might weigh 140kgs. If so then I agree you'll lose some of the BEC weight advantages but you probably need to look at it as a very light 320bhp V8 engine rather than a heavy BEC engine. Chris Quote
ChrisG Posted July 31, 2004 Posted July 31, 2004 Predicted weight here , 92.6kgs. It also says the bellhousing will be 13.7kgs and the transaxle gearbox 36kgs so about 145kgs all up Quote
steve_m Posted July 31, 2004 Posted July 31, 2004 TTS made a 1900cc engine but I don't know if they ever sold any, they were asking £14k for it a year or so ago. £14k buys a brand new busa engine and a turbo conversion from Holeshot with all the internal work to support 450bhp, a dry sump system plus a lot of track day/race tokens left over. Quote
steve_m Posted July 31, 2004 Posted July 31, 2004 Rumour has it that the 2005 Hayabusa will be 1400cc Quote
Westfieldman Posted July 31, 2004 Posted July 31, 2004 I know a Duratec will not make as much power but it would not be far behind so about 145kgs all up A Duratec weighs in at 106kg's plus bellhousung clutch and gearbox [type 9] so what is that all together... Quote
Crash Override Posted July 31, 2004 Posted July 31, 2004 Looks nice, Powertec are in the same league as TTS when it comes to bike engines so it should be very good, and with them working with Quaife the whole package should be pretty light for what it is being a V8 an all. They currently do a brand new 1600cc Busa engine for £10,659 so unfortunatley I fell some of your quotes around £20k+ are going to be right Have you seen what is going into the new Blackbird, the Honda V5, I wonder how that would go. Quote
CateringVan Posted August 1, 2004 Posted August 1, 2004 If you're interested, there is some info on the V8 bike-engined caterham at the 7 workshop here ISTR the engine alone is around £15K but it sounds superb. The last I heard on blatchat what that the car is now road-legal and being further developed Quote
Crash Override Posted August 1, 2004 Posted August 1, 2004 The new blackbird is getting the v5?? Sure is, the V5 is also going into the new RC211V at 200bhp and these are suposed to be released in 2005 at some time. So give it till 2006 and you'll be able to find some V5's in the breakers I should imagine, and then stick it in the westy nice. Quote
DavidC Posted August 2, 2004 Posted August 2, 2004 RC211V? As in the Honda MotoGP machine? Does that mean from 2005 onwards Honda will be racing a new bike in MotoGP, cos they've gotta be prototypes and not race derivatives of road machines. DC Quote
Crash Override Posted August 2, 2004 Posted August 2, 2004 RC211V? As in the Honda MotoGP machine? Does that mean from 2005 onwards Honda will be racing a new bike in MotoGP, cos they've gotta be prototypes and not race derivatives of road machines. DC Yes as in the Honda MotoGP machine, but sorry missread they are designing it to be ready for 2006, the prototype version should be first shown at the Munich bike show in September. Report about this was in MCN July 21st edition. Quote
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