New member in Michigan USA

[Stuart]

🤞they do. But that's so ridiculous....... 

[Paul Hurdsfield - Joint Manchester AO]

Great job👍

Why don’t you leave them on permanently? 😉

Is that just solvent weld waste pipe?🤔

[Russell Brynolf]

On 08/07/2025 at 16:22, Stuart said:

🤞they do. But that's so ridiculous....... 

agreed!!!  However they were  good enough to pass the inspection!!  Onwards!!

 

[Russell Brynolf]

On 08/07/2025 at 16:26, Paul Hurdsfield - Joint Manchester AO said:

Great job👍

Why don’t you leave them on permanently? 😉

Is that just solvent weld waste pipe?🤔

Huh, joker eh!  They served a purpose and allowed it to pass inspection!! Joke really, but now they must come off!!

Yes they are just 2" CPVC waste pipe with 1/2" black pipe frame and supports. Worked really well.

 

[Russell Brynolf]

Just now, Russell Brynolf said:

Huh, joker eh!  They served a purpose and allowed it to pass inspection!! Joke really, but now they must come off!!

Yes they are just 2" CPVC waste pipe with 1/2" black pipe frame and supports. Worked really well.

 

 

Just now, Russell Brynolf said:

Huh, joker eh!  They served a purpose and allowed it to pass inspection!! Joke really, but now they must come off!!

Yes they are just 2" CPVC waste pipe with 1/2" black pipe frame and supports. Worked really well.

 

I filled the CPVC pipe with expanding foam to surround the steel pipe that goes through the center and provide some rigidity.

[Mole]

3 minutes ago, Russell Brynolf said:

 

I filled the CPVC pipe with expanding foam to surround the steel pipe that goes through the center and provide some rigidity.

Maybe you could make some in Carbon..then the carbon hungry boys on here might want to buy some to get their carbon fix!

[Davemk1]

On 08/07/2025 at 14:19, Russell Brynolf said:

Front and rear bumpers - designed and built and hopefully will meet the Michigan state requirements

 

Nice work on the bumpers...I hope that gets you through the process.

I have a comment that is completely unrelated to the bumpers. In looking at the photos of the front suspension something caught my eye. I see that the tie rods attaching the steering rack to the uprights/hubs angle down dramatically as they go out to the upright. It's my understanding that these tie rods should be more or less horizontal and not angled down.

I just went and looked at my car (2014 Mega S2000) and see that the tie rod end sits on top of the steering arm where yours attach to the underside of the arm... hence downward angle.

I suspect that the steering arms are on the wrong side of the car and this means that the tie-rod end can only mount to the underside as yours are currently. If you swapped them side-to-side then the tie rod would mount to the top side of the arm and be much closer to horizontal.

This is important due to the bump-steer that will result from the angled tie rod. As currently set, the wheels will toe-out in a big way when the wheel is pushed upward by a bump. Ideally there is almost zero toe change (with the arm horizontal) but with this downward slope the wheel will toe-out a lot. This can be a serious issue and can cause the car to be very twitchy as the alignment changes when you hit bumps.

It's none of my business of course and you should do what seems right to you...if it were me I'd check this out to be sure all is as it should be.

 

Attached is a photo of my car for reference. I hope this all makes sense.

 

dave

[Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman]

12 minutes ago, Davemk1 said:

I just went and looked at my car (2014 Mega S2000) and see that the tie rod end sits on top of the steering arm where yours attach to the underside of the arm... hence downward angle.

 

The Mega S2000 and Sport 250 chassis have a relocated steering rack position compared to the standard chassis; it's higher, to reduce bump steer.

 

So on these cars, the arms sit above the steering arms on the upright, with the tie rod coming in from above, and the nut going on from below.

 

On standard chassis cars it's the other way round, with the rack connecting below the steering arms on the uprights.

 

Agreed though, you look to have quite a steep angle there, which does look wrong. What's the front ride height set to?

[Davemk1]

1 hour ago, Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman said:

 

The Mega S2000 and Sport 250 chassis have a relocated steering rack position compared to the standard chassis; it's higher, to reduce bump steer.

 

So on these cars, the arms sit above the steering arms on the upright, with the tie rod coming in from above, and the nut going on from below.

 

On standard chassis cars it's the other way round, with the rack connecting below the steering arms on the uprights.

 

Agreed though, you look to have quite a steep angle there, which does look wrong. What's the front ride height set to?

That's interesting Dave - thank you for clearing that up.

 

I wonder why such an angle then? Ride height being set very high I suppose? 

 

 

dave

[Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman]

58 minutes ago, Davemk1 said:

I wonder why such an angle then? Ride height being set very high I suppose? 

 

 

dave

 

That's what I wondered, assuming of course it is a standard chassis!

[Flying Carrot Steve]

 

Is there a reason the tie rods can't be turned through 180° and attach from the top of the steering arm? There looks to be room. 

[Flying Carrot Steve]

 

As I always do when I am learning new stuff on here, I went and compared mine, which are indeed attached from below and are horizontal. 

 

[Davemk1]

28 minutes ago, Flying Carrot Steve said:

 

Is there a reason the tie rods can't be turned through 180° and attach from the top of the steering arm? There looks to be room. 

As I recall the steering arm has a tapered hole so the tie rod end can only enter from one side. This is what made me wonder aloud if the steering arms are mounted the the wrong sides...if you switched sides it would allow the tie rod end to enter from the top.

 

dave

[evosteve]

25 minutes ago, Davemk1 said:

As I recall the steering arm has a tapered hole so the tie rod end can only enter from one side. This is what made me wonder aloud if the steering arms are mounted the the wrong sides...if you switched sides it would allow the tie rod end to enter from the top.

 

dave

As he said, the holes in the steering arms are tapered for the track rod ends.