CRAIGR Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Looking for recommendations for nylon style Westfield widetrack front wishbone bushes unless anyone has some kicking around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 https://westfield-sportscars.co.uk/shop/3702010-nylon-bush-set-7678?page=13&category=2#attr= I suspect that's each rather than a "set" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 2 hours ago, Richard (OldStager) said: https://westfield-sportscars.co.uk/shop/3702010-nylon-bush-set-7678?page=13&category=2#attr= I suspect that's each rather than a "set" It's confusing, because the bits are available separately, ie crush tub, single nylon top hats can each be bought singly, so "set" is the parts to make one bush, not as you'd normally see it where a set would me a full car set. Be aware that if you have independent suspension, the outer, lower wishbone bush, opposite the rose joint, MUST be kept as a metalastic bush, or the suspension can bind with some geometry settings. (There's a similar issue with live axle cars, too, but I can't remember which trailing arm bushes etc have to remain metalastic) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Being the newbie I was back in 2008, I did indeed fit nylon all round, that was until I drove it and found out for a road car it really was over the top. May be fine for smooth track use, but not British B roads. I swapped back to metalastic bushes soon afterwards. I did however keep the polyflex rack mounts as that did tighten the steering up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 I've had the Nylon bushes in a road car, and they can work very well; however, as Richard rightly suggests, they can be unforgiving, so need to be fitted as part of a "matched whole". So in other words, spring rates, dampers - and their settings, even tyres and wheel sizes all make a big difference, and need to work well together. Fit nylon bushes on a hard sprung road car, with little give, stiff damping settings, and low (for a Westfield) 50 profile tyres with very stiff side walls - like Toyo R888R's etc and it will exaggerate the worst of the road surface, for sure. Of course, personal taste plays a huge part here! So while the nylon bushes can give superb road feel, you may not like quite as "talkative" a feedback from the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Got the nylon bushes from Westfield (before it changed hands tho). Bear in mind they are not plug&play; after pressing them in, they need reamed to the right size for the crush tube to go in without play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAIGR Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 Car currently has nylon bushes which appear to be grey in colour or at least the thrust washers are. Further investigation needed it seems . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaykay42 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 11 hours ago, Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman said: It's confusing, because the bits are available separately, ie crush tub, single nylon top hats can each be bought singly, so "set" is the parts to make one bush, not as you'd normally see it where a set would me a full car set. Be aware that if you have independent suspension, the outer, lower wishbone bush, opposite the rose joint, MUST be kept as a metalastic bush, or the suspension can bind with some geometry settings. (There's a similar issue with live axle cars, too, but I can't remember which trailing arm bushes etc have to remain metalastic) Hi Dave! I'm in the process of renewing the nylon (top hat) bushes on my front wishbones. I've acquired 8 metal crush tubes and 16 nylon top hats from Westfield - yes, each "set" is about £10, so £80ish in total. I'm reading up about the reaming and that the fitting is not "plug&play" even though I'm replacing like for like. Could you post an image of what you are saying about the bush that needs to remain metalastic? I'm confused... I've got the "Guide to wishbones" thread on this forum from 2011-ish, so reading up on that currently. Thank you Jens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 It’s at the rear, so you’re fine at the front. on the rear lower wishbones. The outer rear on each side has a rose joint, you wind in or out to adjust the rear toe in. The outer lower wishbone bushes opposite the rose joint are the ones that have to be metastic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 On 13/05/2024 at 10:00, Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman said: Be aware that if you have independent suspension, the outer, lower wishbone bush, opposite the rose joint, MUST be kept as a metalastic bush, or the suspension can bind with some geometry settings. Really? Do you mean the inboard lower bush the outboard ones on mine at the hub end are rose joints. I've not noticed anything. I've found the lower inboard front bush wears faster for some reason. (bolt on the sleeve wear) causes knocking. 3rd set now with metalastic and nylon.. Both wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 32 minutes ago, tex said: Really? Do you mean the inboard lower bush the outboard ones on mine at the hub end are rose joints. I've not noticed anything. I've found the lower inboard front bush wears faster for some reason. (bolt on the sleeve wear) causes knocking. 3rd set now with metalastic and nylon.. Both wear. Hub end. Standard wishbones have one rose joint and one metalastic, which must remain metalastic even if you change all the other bushes to poly or nylon. Out of interest, what wishbones are you using to have both rose joints at hub end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Just looked, my bad.. It has one of each.. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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