Richard (OldStager) Posted May 19 Posted May 19 I agree Steve, I think its the engine, perhaps folks don't know what one is?, I mean they are old now aren't they, I think you have to know about the history of cars to actually appreciate not only the engine but the drive line etc. 20 years ago I would have snapped this up myself. I hope for two things though. It stays in the club and stays in the UK. 1
daveclow Posted May 19 Author Posted May 19 1 hour ago, Flying Carrot Steve said: I just cannot understand why this has not sold, it's a stonking little thing. I can only imagine a lot of owners these days maybe want a more modern and powerful engine but no Westfield is ever slow and this one looks a peach to me! I thought it would sell quite quickly, to be honest. My gut says it’s the short MOT that’s perhaps put folks off, but it’s booked in for next week. It’s done less than 70 miles since the last mot so should be fine! I saw the crossflow engine as a great option for me, as a first time Westfield owner. No regrets. Went out for a drive this evening and the noise is so good. Perhaps I’ll end up keeping it whether I like it or not 😅 The major thing for me is that I don’t get chance to use it due to my frantic lifestyle and young family. 2
Richard (OldStager) Posted May 19 Posted May 19 @daveclow I am biased, but I would , if you can afford it - keep the car and do your best to get hold of its replacement some other way , I love mine so much I would never sell it, in fact despite doctors orders to stop driving sports cars, I am keeping the car for a good friend of mine who will take it over when the time is right. There was a thread here recently about regrets when selling, and the vast majority either bought other one fairly soon after or they live on to regret it. You may not use it much ( just like me) but once it's gone - it's gone, and when I say that I mean your car, getting another might not be quite as good as your old one?. Anyway I wish you all the best in whatever you decide to do. 1
Flying Carrot Steve Posted May 20 Posted May 20 12 hours ago, Richard (OldStager) said: @daveclow I am biased, but I would , if you can afford it - keep the car and do your best to get hold of its replacement some other way , I love mine so much I would never sell it, in fact despite doctors orders to stop driving sports cars, I am keeping the car for a good friend of mine who will take it over when the time is right. There was a thread here recently about regrets when selling, and the vast majority either bought other one fairly soon after or they live on to regret it. You may not use it much ( just like me) but once it's gone - it's gone, and when I say that I mean your car, getting another might not be quite as good as your old one?. Anyway I wish you all the best in whatever you decide to do. Yep, I agree with that! 1
Mighty Mart Posted May 20 Posted May 20 Not a wind up....honest! IMHO the Kent X-flow is more in keeping with the original '7' mantra, and the soundtrack is second to none - in fact some of the more modern engines are miles behind in the noise enjoyment too... More modern engines are more powerful and more reliable, and nicer running, but that kind of takes away the romance of owning a 7 to me anyway....nursing a cold engine on twin webbers with no choke until it can tick over under its own steam, is a skill that most younger drivers have never experienced, which i find a bit sad too....pulling up to the first few junctions, balancing the throttle and using the handbrake would probably see a risk assessment required now lol... I think there is a bit of snobbery involved too when looking at an old x flow engined car, and many write them off as being too slow. As pointed out above though, a well fettled example with 130 plus bhp, whilst on paper being way underpowered to other more modern equipment, in real terms can be not too far behind. Last year I had the pleasure of a 60 plus mile blat with a Caterham 420 owner who was very complimentary about my x-flow se registered in '92!!!! Mart. 4
Richard (OldStager) Posted May 20 Posted May 20 43 minutes ago, Mighty Mart said: Not a wind up....honest! IMHO the Kent X-flow is more in keeping with the original '7' mantra, and the soundtrack is second to none - in fact some of the more modern engines are miles behind in the noise enjoyment too... More modern engines are more powerful and more reliable, and nicer running, but that kind of takes away the romance of owning a 7 to me anyway....nursing a cold engine on twin webbers with no choke until it can tick over under its own steam, is a skill that most younger drivers have never experienced, which i find a bit sad too....pulling up to the first few junctions, balancing the throttle and using the handbrake would probably see a risk assessment required now lol... I think there is a bit of snobbery involved too when looking at an old x flow engined car, and many write them off as being too slow. As pointed out above though, a well fettled example with 130 plus bhp, whilst on paper being way underpowered to other more modern equipment, in real terms can be not too far behind. Last year I had the pleasure of a 60 plus mile blat with a Caterham 420 owner who was very complimentary about my x-flow se registered in '92!!!! Mart. Are we brothers from another marriage my mother never told me about , because I agree 100% in everything you said. You know as well as I do, when faced with a boyracer today in the average tintops they use, which one is going to lose. Not that I condone racing on the street BTW, very very naughty is that... And yet they are sat laughing at this very old looking car which proceeds to leave them far behind never to be seen again.., lol. Colin Chapman had it right the first 7 he made, light car , small capacity engine that was tuneable, was it Caterham or Lotus that were banned from racing because they kept winning everything, can't recall now, but I heard they had T shirts made, something like Too Fast To Race, lol 2 1
Flying Carrot Steve Posted May 20 Posted May 20 Out of interest @daveclow where have you advertised it for sale? Anywhere other than on here? eBay and Pistonheads are worth trying IMHO. Plus of course dozens of groups on Facebook. 1
daveclow Posted May 20 Author Posted May 20 6 hours ago, Flying Carrot Steve said: Out of interest @daveclow where have you advertised it for sale? Anywhere other than on here? eBay and Pistonheads are worth trying IMHO. Plus of course dozens of groups on Facebook. it did 2 weeks in auto trader followed by 2 weeks on eBay. It’s also listed on FB marketplace and within several 7 groups. 1
daveclow Posted May 20 Author Posted May 20 7 hours ago, Mighty Mart said: Not a wind up....honest! IMHO the Kent X-flow is more in keeping with the original '7' mantra, and the soundtrack is second to none - in fact some of the more modern engines are miles behind in the noise enjoyment too... More modern engines are more powerful and more reliable, and nicer running, but that kind of takes away the romance of owning a 7 to me anyway....nursing a cold engine on twin webbers with no choke until it can tick over under its own steam, is a skill that most younger drivers have never experienced, which i find a bit sad too....pulling up to the first few junctions, balancing the throttle and using the handbrake would probably see a risk assessment required now lol... I think there is a bit of snobbery involved too when looking at an old x flow engined car, and many write them off as being too slow. As pointed out above though, a well fettled example with 130 plus bhp, whilst on paper being way underpowered to other more modern equipment, in real terms can be not too far behind. Last year I had the pleasure of a 60 plus mile blat with a Caterham 420 owner who was very complimentary about my x-flow se registered in '92!!!! Mart. totally!! It’s all part of the charm. i went out for a blat with someone in an 2.0 zetec and another in a bec, and they commented on how well it did on a spirited drive. One major problem is space. I’d love to keep it AND buy another car, but aside from funding, where would I keep them all. My collection currently stands at a Transporter van, Audi S3, Defender 90, 911 997.2 and the Westfield. It’s getting a bit silly. I just love cars! 2
Richard (OldStager) Posted May 20 Posted May 20 23 minutes ago, daveclow said: totally!! It’s all part of the charm. i went out for a blat with someone in an 2.0 zetec and another in a bec, and they commented on how well it did on a spirited drive. One major problem is space. I’d love to keep it AND buy another car, but aside from funding, where would I keep them all. My collection currently stands at a Transporter van, Audi S3, Defender 90, 911 997.2 and the Westfield. It’s getting a bit silly. I just love cars! Perhaps too much Dave with that collection, well done . See your dilemma now, and guessing the Westy is the least practical of all your cars. 2
Flying Carrot Steve Posted May 21 Posted May 21 23 hours ago, daveclow said: totally!! It’s all part of the charm. i went out for a blat with someone in an 2.0 zetec and another in a bec, and they commented on how well it did on a spirited drive. One major problem is space. I’d love to keep it AND buy another car, but aside from funding, where would I keep them all. My collection currently stands at a Transporter van, Audi S3, Defender 90, 911 997.2 and the Westfield. It’s getting a bit silly. I just love cars! I had the same issue, 4 until recently when I sold a kit. Now I'm already looking at bl**** vans! 🤦
Richard (OldStager) Posted May 21 Posted May 21 13 minutes ago, Flying Carrot Steve said: I had the same issue, 4 until recently when I sold a kit. Now I'm already looking at bl**** vans! 🤦 Get one big enough to hold a car or two Steve, lol. That way storage is less of an issue... 1
Flying Carrot Steve Posted May 22 Posted May 22 12 hours ago, Richard (OldStager) said: Get one big enough to hold a car or two Steve, lol. That way storage is less of an issue... I wish!
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