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Thanks @Nick Algar it’s something I note but not observe any more.  I’ve got dual nationality but lived here almost 10 years longer than I lived in the States, so it’s difficult for me personally to feel one nationality or the other.  I guess that makes me a bit of a mongrel! 😂

 

The air traffic controllers in the States working today have a unique way of getting their own back.  On the 4th of July, they greet the pilots of British Airways flights with “Happy Traitors Day”. 😂

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1 hour ago, Scott Young (Captain Colonial) - Club Secretary said:

Thanks @Nick Algar it’s something I note but not observe any more.  I’ve got dual nationality but lived here almost 10 years longer than I lived in the States, so it’s difficult for me personally to feel one nationality or the other.  I guess that makes me a bit of a mongrel! 😂

 

The air traffic controllers in the States working today have a unique way of getting their own back.  On the 4th of July, they greet the pilots of British Airways flights with “Happy Traitors Day”. 😂

 

A bit like I'm just about a Geordie having lived up here far longer than anywhere else in UK & Europe ;)

 

Great story about the ATC's :) ;)

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On 04/07/2023 at 20:23, Scott Young (Captain Colonial) - Club Secretary said:

 

The air traffic controllers in the States working today have a unique way of getting their own back.  On the 4th of July, they greet the pilots of British Airways flights with “Happy Traitors Day”.

 

I'd remind the ATC folks that technically, the USA is on a long term lease. We might want it back... but maybe not just right now... :oops:

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7 hours ago, Blatman said:

 

I'd remind the ATC folks that technically, the USA is on a long term lease. We might want it back... but maybe not just right now... :oops:

 

Definitely not right now - significant improvements are required, mainly to the inhabitants.

 

Apparently, the US State Department was concerned after the September 2001 terror attacks that the security at the US Embassy at Grosvenor Square was insufficient, and contacted Grosvenor Estates about buying the square (they had a very long but restricted lease).

 

They had a response back from the owner, the Duke of Westminster, who offered to exchange it for property stolen from his ancestors by the Colonial Americans during the War of Independence.

 

When they asked what that might be, he replied “Virginia”.

 

Hence the reason the new US Embassy in London was later built.

 

 

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On 06/07/2023 at 07:54, Scott Young (Captain Colonial) - Club Secretary said:

Hence the reason the new US Embassy in London was later built.

 

Notably not on any part of city owned by the aforementioned DoW 😄 

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11 minutes ago, djm said:

From the same article "1 in 5 Americans didn't know that hamburgers contained beef".

I must admit as a brit that I have also been confused as to why Americans call beefburgers hamburgers!

Calling @Scott Young (Captain Colonial) - Club Secretary do you know why?


As versions of the meal have been served for over a century, its origin remains obscure.  The 1758 edition of the book The Art of Cookery Made Plain and Easy by Hannah Glasse included a recipe in 1758 as "Hamburgh sausage", which suggested to serve it "roasted with toasted bread under it." A similar snack was also popular in Hamburg by the name "Rundstück warm" ("bread roll warm") in 1869 or earlier, and supposedly eaten by many emigrants on their way to America, but may have contained roasted beefsteak rather than Frikadeller. It has been suggested that Hamburg steak served between two pieces of bread and frequently eaten by Jewish passengers travelling from Hamburg to New York on Hamburg America Line vessels (which began operations in 1847) became so well known that the shipping company gave its name to the dish. Each of these may mark the invention of the hamburger and explain the name.

 

There is a reference to a "Hamburg steak" as early as 1884 in the Boston Journal.[OED, under "steak"] On July 5, 1896, the Chicago Daily Tribune made a highly specific claim regarding a "hamburger sandwich" in an article about a "Sandwich Car": "A distinguished favorite, only five cents, is Hamburger steak sandwich, the meat for which is kept ready in small patties and 'cooked while you wait' on the gasoline range."

 

(My sister was quite upset with me when we were young and I convinced her butterflies were made of butter and got her to eat one.  She still hasn’t forgiven me.)

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Thanks for the comprehensive answer Scott, very logical but still confusing for 20% of Americans!

Are you on speaking terms with your sister?

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52 minutes ago, djm said:

Thanks for the comprehensive answer Scott, very logical but still confusing for 20% of Americans!

Are you on speaking terms with your sister?


Nope!  For some things we must be grateful…

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