Torque angle wrench? Anyone have one I can borrow?

[TableLeg]

I need to Angle torque some fasteners on my engine and bought one of the cheap dial type devices but it's rubbish. It's too unreliable, sometimes moving on the scale and other times not so I'm not going to risk using it.

 

I'd rather not fork the sum of money needed to buy a Torque angle wrench if I can help it to torque just 20 fasteners.

 

Has anybody got one I could borrow? I'd be happy to pay any postage for sending and returning it.

 

PM please if you can help.

[evosteve]

Bite the bullet and treat your yourself, buy a good one and it will last you years. My Britool one is well over 30 years old and well in cal.

[TableLeg]

2 minutes ago, evosteve said:

Bite the bullet and treat your yourself, buy a good one and it will last you years. My Britool one is well over 30 years old and well in cal.

Thanks for the reply Steve but I'd rather put the money elsewhere for something I'm unlikely to use again after this.

[SootySport]

Make a cardboard angle wheel to fit on wrench for free.

[TableLeg]

21 minutes ago, SootySport said:

Make a cardboard angle wheel to fit on wrench for free.

I'm already ahead of you there, now 3d printing one😁

[corsechris]

Or maybe just mark the bolt heads and mating surface with a paint pen or Sharpie?

[TableLeg]

2 hours ago, corsechris said:

Or maybe just mark the bolt heads and mating surface with a paint pen or Sharpie?

Not so easy Chris, 13mm bolt head and 53°.............

[corsechris]

7 hours ago, TableLeg said:

Not so easy Chris, 13mm bolt head and 53°.............

That would test the eye-crometer wouldn’t it. I’ve one of those cheap pointer & scale types you fit in-line between the breaker bar (or torque wrench) and the socket. Can be a tad fiddly and needs care in use. 
 

Just had a really random thought…anyone ever experimented to determine the accuracy of a modern smartphone in compass mode? You can probably see where this idea is going…..

[TableLeg]

5 hours ago, corsechris said:

That would test the eye-crometer wouldn’t it. I’ve one of those cheap pointer & scale types you fit in-line between the breaker bar (or torque wrench) and the socket. Can be a tad fiddly and needs care in use. 
 

Just had a really random thought…anyone ever experimented to determine the accuracy of a modern smartphone in compass mode? You can probably see where this idea is going…..

I bought one those tools exactly as you describe, piece of junk. After 3 attempts I abandoned it as I could see the socket turn and then stop whilst the breaker bar was still moving.

That's the beauty of the digital torque angle gauges you just it and go.

[Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman]

I’ve used one of those accessory types during a few engine builds. They can be most effective- but need careful use and set up, to brace them. (And ideally three hands, to operate both the gauge and the wrench.)

[TableLeg]

Well If I say so myself the 3d printed gauge works flawlessly!!!😊

 

I made the base plate slotted to give flexibility on where to fix the securing M6 bolt.

I made the pointers nice and big to increase the accuracy and they are pegged so I could print them in white and fit to the baseplate.

The socket pointer is slotted so it springs open slightly and provides a nice grip but still allows it to be aligned.

[Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman]

Perfect!

[TableLeg]

Just printed and used the 53° one (the first was an 80° one) and it too work perfectly!

 

All for the princely sum of around £1 🙂

 

Happy days.

[SootySport]

On 01/12/2022 at 18:38, TableLeg said:

I'm already ahead of you there, now 3d printing one😁

Well there yer go, simple and effective.  I've always judged the angles by eye, always have the  wrench in line with the engine when starting to pull the angle and for 53deg go 45 and then turn a little more, say midway between 45 and 60 should be bang on.

  So many other factors come in to play when in the torque phase, accuracy of torque wrench, tensile strength of bolt, oil or grease in threads so a few degrees is not going to be far out.