Captain Colonial Posted July 7, 2022 Author Posted July 7, 2022 What finally convinced him to go: 2 Quote
Man On The Clapham Omnibus Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 Boris should be forever remembered for saving the country from Corbyn. Anything he did after that pales into insignificance. Who now? 4 4 Quote
Captain Colonial Posted July 7, 2022 Author Posted July 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Man On The Clapham Omnibus said: Boris should be forever remembered for saving the country from Corbyn. I don’t think the country was ever in any real danger of being led by Corbyn. I’m certain that even Teresa May would have defeated Corbyn. Corbyn pretty much defeated Corbyn, and rightly so. Let’s not give Boris that much credit. 2 Quote
Man On The Clapham Omnibus Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 By that time Theresa May couldn't even beat an egg! She only just beat Corbyn in 2017 and she had lost any lustre she may have had by 2019. I wouldn't want to take that chance. Without the scandals would Johnson have been acceptable to the public at large? Not counting those who are avowed anti-Conservatives anyway and would even oppose John the Baptist. 2 Quote
corsechris Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 What really makes me chuckle is the implication that politicians of any other stripe than tory are 100% pure, cleaner than driven snow, above reproach etc etc. I don’t trust a single politician of any persuasion. Never give power to someone that seeks it. 9 Quote
Blatman Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 I think it was always going to end this way. I'm not sure the public at large care that much, living as they do in a world of political and personal double standards with things like partygate. To continue with the biblical metaphor, let he who is without sin... plenty of us were, but plenty were disobeying the rules along with Johnson so he gets away with that. We haven't had the result of the cops looking at Starmer's own partygate issues yet lets not forget... But known sex offenders getting a pass through to very high office, let alone where he's policing other MP's, was never going to pass muster. Quote
Stuart Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 Sad day for democracy. The remoaners are already looking to overturn Brexit. And if a conglomeration of Labour, Greens, Lib Dems and SNP gets in with Tony Bliar pulling strings then God help us...... 3 Quote
Richard (OldStager) Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 So glad whoever had a word with him did so, although I disagree with him staying on, who knows what he may do , he hasn't had a great track record when he was THE prime minister. Quote
Blatman Posted July 8, 2022 Posted July 8, 2022 14 hours ago, Stuart said: Sad day for democracy. The remoaners are already looking to overturn Brexit. And if a conglomeration of Labour, Greens, Lib Dems and SNP gets in with Tony Bliar pulling strings then God help us...... Starmer has already said he won't overturn Brexit. As long as Starmers "partygate" investigation finds no wrongdoing on his part he'll be able to lose the next election so no worries. But if he does get found to have been breaching the rules he has committed to resign. Sometimes it's better the devil you know... And Boris has committed to abide by the rules (whatever they are) of a lame duck PM. And summer recess starts in a couple of weeks so not much gets done anyway. Quote
corsechris Posted July 8, 2022 Posted July 8, 2022 The other great myth this sort of situation brings out in spades is the double-whammy of 20/20 hindsight coupled with the fallacy that “things would have been better under a xxxxx government”. The latter point is an absolute and total failure of any kind of reasoning, yet seems to be trotted out ad nauseam by all sides, as well as being believed by many. Whilst a person is more than welcome to believe ‘things’ would have been better, there is simply no way to know that. By definition, it is unknowable. Well, unless one has access to a time machine and the entire multiverse of course. My opinion, overall, Boris didn’t do too bad a job given the way the world went in the past few years. There were a few times during the worst days of Covid where I wondered what kind of person would stay in the role of P.M. I’d have cut and run. And yes, I am well aware that my opinion is of no interest nor value to anyone else, but it's mine and I’m entitled to it. Other opinions are available. 3 Quote
Man On The Clapham Omnibus Posted July 8, 2022 Posted July 8, 2022 I'd quite like to see Penny Mordaunt in a cabinet role. Not necessarily as PM, but one where she gets the opportunity to spit-roast Angela Rayner from time to time. Like this:- Youtube Quote
Captain Colonial Posted July 8, 2022 Author Posted July 8, 2022 As some of you will know, I’m utterly apolitical in that I don’t like or trust any of them and I vote for the party / candidate that will IMHO cause the least amount of damage (apart from 2019 general election when I deliberately spoiled by ballot paper with the words “No suitable party or candidate offered”), but if we’re now posting YouTube videos, this link very much says it for me and better than I can (NSFW - some swearing): Quote
Richard (OldStager) Posted July 8, 2022 Posted July 8, 2022 An insider within No10 revealed this afternoon that Boris has this on repeat in his office...😆 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMdasbntQag The link could not be embedded because an error occurred on www.youtube.com. Quote
Stuart Posted July 8, 2022 Posted July 8, 2022 Whichever way you swing, there is no denying that Boris' resignation was the end result of a media witch hunt. They got what they wanted and the glee is most obvious. That's what worries me the most. Quote
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