Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 46 minutes ago, Glen_I said: And if he starts with 'it wont cost that much to put it right' then why hasn't he done so already?? Absolutely! He's probably worrying that it could be thousands. (Especially if from a non-kit/self-build background. The idea of engine swaps in itself is daunting, coupled with scare stories of new engines from dealers costing big, big money). Even if he's done a fairly generic search for a recon engine, it may have pulled up scary figures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKARM Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 3 hours ago, AndrewOBW said: You mentioned it had a tank of diesel? That could have done an awful lot of damage there if it was cranked after. I'd definitely be going in with a low offer to begin with considering that and factoring in that the two cylinder running could be injector damage there. Drain the tank and send it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew O Byrne White - Ireland AO Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, Rush Motorsport said: Drain the tank and send it. True if it wasn't cranked with the diesel in it... Bit more complex if it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKARM Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Just now, AndrewOBW said: True if it wasn't cranked with the diesel in it... Bit more complex if it was. At the risk of thread drift - why? Might hurt the injectors if you’re unlucky, but Petrol in a Diesel is the bad scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Diesel in a petrol car isn't usually catastrophic, normally the worst case scenario is everything needing a good clean. All depends on how long it was run like that I guess. The problems can come when it's a bit of diesel mixed in with enough petrol to actually let the engine run (briefly), until it's either too diluted to ignite, or individual parts like injectors gum up with the heavy oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew O Byrne White - Ireland AO Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 To oversimplify it, diesel and petrol don't mix well, and it can cause a lot of damage, or nothing at all. If this was just a simple part of the history of a car with no running issues after, I wouldn't be overly worried. But as we don't know the full story here, and it has got problems now, I'd be factoring in the worst case in any offer I'd make, and that'd include the likes of injectors, and potentially the fuel pump might have been damaged in the process etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy - a15cro Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 Ok so as to try and quantify the reply’s to date. a) the current owner is a mechanic with a garage, sales and hire business, so has said it’s going to be a relatively cheap fix for him even if he throws another motor in, however he’s got lots of projects and possibly does not have time for this one. b) I believe the previous owner (there is a three by Angliawestie) must have cranked it an awful lot when trying to establish the issue of it not starting I.e diesel! c) I’m the same with negotiation, I sell too cheap and usually buy asking price or more! 😖 d) anyone want to but a Kingfisher Blue 270bhp Audi TT Quattro to help fund the repatriation! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Not sure who said it but. Never look for happiness in the place you lost it. It won't be there... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingster Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Blatman said: Not sure who said it Confucius? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hunter - Club Secretary Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I don't know the car, but you seem to be pining for your first love. I'd take a punt, major on possible engine damage and offer him as little as possible. I've seen a few miss fuelling episodes over the years, having run large LGV and car fleets for years. TBH I've never seen an engine failure on a petrol filled with derv (the other way round gets expensive 🤦♂️). They do misfire and so sounds catastrophic but normally its one or more gunked up spark plug and/or the injectors. Being a 2001 I'm assuming it hasn't got a catalytic converter? Could have been worse, years ago I had a senior manager decide to run his brand new Jag on his home brewed "bio diesel" (or chip fat as it turned out!). Didn't end well for the car or his job! 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Chris King said: Confucius? No more than usual... er... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy - a15cro Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 A bit more communication this evening and he’s looking to buy a Scooby powered V-Storm so an offer has been made by me for the Westie, he said he’s wanting £9k but I’m not prepared to go to that given it’s got problems now. I’m sure there’s some middle ground to be reached. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy - a15cro Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 More Comms today, the guy has officially told me its up for sale - however he's wanting £9k as it stands or £12k repaired Since I only took £9k for it running I just can't go there, I think at £8k its still a decent offer, however he has a WhatsApp group 'advising' on value. I think it may be slipping out of my grasp, am I being too melancholy, I seem to be having an internal turmoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigHew Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I'd hold tight and be prepared to walk away if the price isnt right for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy - a15cro Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, CraigHew said: I'd hold tight and be prepared to walk away if the price isnt right for you. Thats exactly what I think, as hard as it is. Its a days round trip to Peterborough to factor in as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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