13 Inch Tyres

[Terzo204]

I'm going to use the Avon ZZR's for dry's, but I don't believe Khumo are doing the Ecsta V70's in 13/185's in soft any more. They have been discontinuted according to Demon Tweeks

What are the alternative 13 inch tyres (for wets) for up to 40 minute races?

 

[AdamR]

Guessing you need a 'List' tyre, Mike?

[Terzo204]

Yes. List b or c

[Paul Morcom]

My view is if 1B tyres then no need for wets. If 1C then when I went over to 1C tyres I sought advice and most sprinters reply was... my wets have done a large mileage.....in the trailer and never been used!

It really does need a lot of standing water to see the benefit of a dedicated wet tyre. So with cost of tyres and rims for something I would never or hardly ever use I decided not to buy any and I don't think I have missed not having them.

[AdamR]

This is for racing though Paul, we'll actually go out on track when it's hammering down

I've only ever used what's on my car Mike, so no experience here really - apologies.

[Terzo204]

I race at Pembrey a lot and last year we raced several times in the wet (pouring rain in fact) and so I do need a set of wets. If its just standing water it's semi-slicks all the way.

[Terzo204]

Just now, AdamR said:

This is for racing though Paul, we'll actually go out on track when it's hammering down

I've only ever used what's on my car Mike, so no experience here really - apologies.

Thanks nonetheless Adam

[Terzo204]

I think the only option might be ZZS? Not sure these are availabel in soft though

[AdamR]

Yeah I think compound makes more difference than anything - providing there are enough grooves to prevent aquaplaning.

The Nankang NS2R comes in a super soft (80 wear rating) in 15" and 17", not sure if it's available in 13s too? Have used that tyre on MX-5s in some pretty horrendous conditions and it clears pretty well.

[Terzo204]

25 minutes ago, Paul Morcom said:

My view is if 1B tyres then no need for wets. If 1C then when I went over to 1C tyres I sought advice and most sprinters reply was... my wets have done a large mileage.....in the trailer and never been used!

It really does need a lot of standing water to see the benefit of a dedicated wet tyre. So with cost of tyres and rims for something I would never or hardly ever use I decided not to buy any and I don't think I have missed not having them.

It's wet in wales!

[Terzo204]

7 minutes ago, AdamR said:

Yeah I think compound makes more difference than anything - providing there are enough grooves to prevent aquaplaning.

The Nankang NS2R comes in a super soft (80 wear rating) in 15" and 17", not sure if it's available in 13s too? Have used that tyre on MX-5s in some pretty horrendous conditions and it clears pretty well.

I'll do some digging as I saw these and I know some people rate them.

[AdamR]

Sounds good. I think the 'issue' with tyre reviews though is that they are so subjective, ideally need a back-to-back opinion or someone experienced who has used a LOT of tyres in your specific application!

[Terzo204]

Yes you are right Adam, but no one ever wants to share that info!

Just found this on the Nankang website "TREADWEAR index: 180 (street) is the only compound now produced by the factory"

 

 

[Paul Morcom]

Yes if racing then a different need. You are right it can be wet at Pembrey more often than not. Try wrapping sheep round your dry tyres.

I only have sprinting experience but Alan Mugglestone has tested some tyres and ended up with Nankangs and rates them highly on his Raw Fulcrum. Though I have heard other say that they are no good.

Worth talking to him as he is a professional in the motorsport world, but he may charge you for his advice.

 

[AdamR]

Yeah, the AR-1s are in the 80 compound and I have heard they are good for dry sprinting, but are more like ZZR in their tread pattern style (eg. very scant!).