Greggs Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Afternoon All, Does anyone know the law regarding carrying fuel in 20 litre metal jerry cans on a trailer? would they need to be in an enclosed box? or would they be ok in a frame bolted to the trailer? Cheers Greggs.. Quote
CraigHew Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Dont think I've ever seen a definitive answer for this, or for carrying fuel in cars. I'm sure lots of people will have a view or have heard a few stories. Quote
pcxr Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 I was trained in carriage of dangerous goods a couple of years ago. You can carry up to 333 litres of fuel in suitable containers without being in scope for needing an ADR licence. 2 or 3 20 litres jerry can is no problem just secure them. There is no harm in displaying a hazchem sign/sticker on the vehicle so emergency services are aware that you are carrying a hazardous substance in the event of a collision or fire. 1 Quote
Greggs Posted March 10, 2017 Author Posted March 10, 2017 12 hours ago, pcxr said: I was trained in carriage of dangerous goods a couple of years ago. You can carry up to 333 litres of fuel in suitable containers without being in scope for needing an ADR licence. 2 or 3 20 litres jerry can is no problem just secure them. There is no harm in displaying a hazchem sign/sticker on the vehicle so emergency services are aware that you are carrying a hazardous substance in the event of a collision or fire. Just the answer I was after.. I will order the a couple of carriers to mount on the trailer. Many thanks... Quote
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 Just out of curiosity, can anyone confirm whether it's true that vehicles bearing the hazchem or explosive risk signs/stickers cannot be clamped? Or is this just an urban myth? Quote
pcxr Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 I havn't heard that one. I would say it's a myth otherwise everyone could display a yellow square sign indicating some kind of hazardous material is being carried and avoid clamping. It MAY only be true for vehicles displaying specific hazard diamonds and ADR number boards belonging to companies with ADR licences. I'll try and look into it more Quote
TAFKARM Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 If you put hazchem labels on, would you not have some issues when it comes to tunnels? (i.e. prohibition) Quote
pcxr Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 2 hours ago, RussH said: If you put hazchem labels on, would you not have some issues when it comes to tunnels? (i.e. prohibition) Tunnel restrictions don't apply to loads carried in limited quantities, accepted loads, loads below thresholds or empty uncleared containers under ADR legislation. 1 Quote
jeff oakley Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 When we had the last fuel shortage, some dopey woman stored huge quantities of fuel in her kitchen and was surprised when she turned on her gas cooker that the kitchen blew up. Since then there has been a change as to how much you can store at home, 30 litres maximum. As a result many garages do not allow you to fill anything bigger than 5 litres even though HSE has said 20ltr metal cans are fine. So trying to fill three jerry cans that are visible on some forecourts will cause issues. Quote
Nick Mace Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 38 minutes ago, jeff oakley said: When we had the last fuel shortage, some dopey woman stored huge quantities of fuel in her kitchen and was surprised when she turned on her gas cooker that the kitchen blew up. I remember that. Proper Darwin Award stuff. Wasn't there someone else who filled the bath up with fuel?? Quote
iowlee Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 Direct from HSE website Can private individuals carry petrol? ADR exempts completely private, non-work related carriage subject to some conditions (ADR 1.1.3.1(a)). Work related carriage may be exempt or partially exempt in three ways: Ancillary to main activity. ADR 1.1.3.1(c). This is a limited exemption which is discussed in Main Exemptions. Up to 1 litre of petrol can be carried under the LQ provisions (see Main Exemptions). As a "small load" The small load exemptions (Main Exemptions) will be applicable up to a total quantity of 333 litres (if other dangerous goods are carried the aggregation rules must be applied). The containers must be UN approved (see Packaging) and properly labelled (see Consignment Procedures). Typical 5 litre containers purchased from car accessory shops and garages may not be so approved. A typical case would be the carriage of two or three jerricans in a van. Providing those cans are UN approved, marked UN 1203 and labelled with the flammable diamond, the only requirements are Driver training in accordance with ADR 1.3 Carry 2 kg fire extinguisher Stow the jerry cans correctly to avoid damage or loss from the vehicle Note: a typical steel jerry can might be marked 3A1/Y/170/**/GB/**** ** is the year of manufacture and **** the packaging certificate number. In this case no density figure is give after the "Y" which means it is suitable only for liquids with relative density ≤ 1.2 (petrol is typically 0.8 or less) Quote
CraigHew Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 10 hours ago, Greggs said: Just the answer I was after.. Best not read any further then..... Quote
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