Dommo Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 I think the ditch finding 80's statement and Dave's "engines we were brought up on" thoughts are right for most people out there. We don't build engines to get the maximum performance out of them, we build them for what we want instead. When you want high revving, great sounding, easy to package and well performing N/A, then the S2000 engine sits at the top of the league for performance out of the box, You can definitely see it being a classic engine. 2 Quote
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 Yep, I hope I made it clear, I'm talking about a perception of turbos, coloured by the past, NOT the reality of modern turbos. For example, the very first turbo charged car I pax'd in was a seventies 911. Utterly thrilling and addictive, but also utterly terrifying, even as a pre-teen, with no fear of death! From then, it was a mix of Saab's, Renault 5's and the occasional Sierra Cosworth. All of which had a certain, wait for it, wait for it, wait for it, oh @#$€ ! Quality about them. But I have ridden in and/or driven some of the modern turbos too, like the Fiesta ST and various VAG Turbo variants and agree, they can be superb, and an utterly different kettle of fish. ...But, still, the buzz of sitting behind an engine hitting (intentionally) 8 or 9000 rpm, brings back memories of the highly tuned cars around in my youth and gives that "17 again" feeling. 2 Quote
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 Perhaps I need the best of both worlds. A turbocharged Honda! 1 Quote
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, Snappy said: or Supercharger?? lol To be honest, that was where I was heading, but work issues mean anything like that it on firm hold at the moment. Quote
John K Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 40 minutes ago, Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - WSCC AO Rep said: like the Fiesta ST Ok, so I'm biased as I've got one but the slight lag, and no matter what any journo tells you, there is lag, but is worth trading for the torque. But it still loves to rev and in the wet I find myself short shifting when the front wheels spin up. I still crave the immediate control and response of a natural breather, but that's what the xflow is for Modern turbo engines do perform some sort of voodoo, let me get back to you next year regarding the blown three pot. Quote
Steve (sdh2903) Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 6 hours ago, Dommo said: I think the ditch finding 80's statement and Dave's "engines we were brought up on" thoughts are right for most people out there. We don't build engines to get the maximum performance out of them, we build them for what we want instead. When you want high revving, great sounding, easy to package and well performing N/A, then the S2000 engine sits at the top of the league for performance out of the box, You can definitely see it being a classic engine. Agree totally. I think the f20c is probably the perfect allround choice for this type of car. It even looks perfect in the engine bay of a westy. Just a shame they are not more abundantly available for reasonable money. They are only going to keep rising in value aswell. 1 Quote
Captain Colonial Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 On 25/02/2017 at 19:19, John K said: Please Mr Chairman, I have lived at "Sporty Diesel House" for too long (even the village postie has asked me what's going on), it looks like somebody else deserves your DERV related abuse now..? You'd think so, wouldn't you? Tragically for you, the answer is no. Looked at your profile address lately? 1 Quote
John K Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Scott Young - WSCC Chairman said: Tragically for you, the answer is no. Looked at your profile address lately? Would calling you what you are help my situation in any way..? And you have actually landed a double wammy, not only am I anti DERV, but also a principled Brexiteer... 1 Quote
Captain Colonial Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, John K said: Would calling you what you are help my situation in any way..? And you have actually landed a double wammy, not only am I anti DERV, but also a principled Brexiteer... Could only make it worse. I dunno, I think me changing your mailing address to include "Casa de la Pollo el DERV" is quite suitable - I remember when you used to have "El Pollo Loco" above your avatar. Hmph - there's gratitude for you. Quote
Ian Kinder (Bagpuss) - Joint Peak District AO Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Getting back on topic: this website shows there's still plenty to go at: https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/honda_s2000 2 Quote
Stu Faulkner Posted February 28, 2017 Author Posted February 28, 2017 All we need to do is get the owners to fit 'Hong kong skid along' tires and they will soon become available. Quote
Thrustyjust Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Perhaps when the new VED rates come in again this year they may drop in S2000 value, but I doubt it. I think ours is up £20 this year.............. barstewards.............. Quote
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