Quinten Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Am slightly confused about the seemingly wild array of part numbers and alternatives, so maybe someone is able to help. Want to do an oil service before I take the car back on the road and took note of the part currently on there: FRAM PH966B. I then compared it to Burton's advice, and they reckon a EFL500 is the jobbie for a Crossflow. However, if I look at http://www.oilfilter-crossreference.com/convert/Fram/PH966B, then the EFL500 doesn't feature at all, so I am going to assume they are not the same at all? Should I just play it safe and get another FRAM PH966B (£9.99 on Amazon/Ebay, but it looks nothing like my one), or should I be buying something else? The reason I'm hesitant, is that I'm reading many negative reviews on the FRAM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John K Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I was recommended a Mann W712/43 by my local motor factor. Not sure what the differences are between filters to be honest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Gibney - Lancashire AO Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Spend £5 on new filter ,change each year 3k miles not a problem. Honestly don't think it matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SootySport Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Fram are OK, can't be much of technical reason why not. I buy a few at a time from my local car parts shop to get a discount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinten Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 I was recommended a Mann W712/43 by my local motor factor. Not sure what the differences are between filters to be honest... Well, comparing this part number with the equivalent of FRAM, and then comparing the two FRAM options, the difference seems to be that yours has an anti-drain valve and a pressure relief valve, and mine doesn't. Having done a bit more googling, it seems these two options make good sense to have, so I'll probably go for one of those as well Edited: compare http://www.framcatalog.com/PartDetail.aspx?b=F&pn=PH3614 to http://www.framcatalog.com/PartDetail.aspx?b=F&pn=PH966B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John K Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Cool, glad it was a useful post..! And when you say "pressure relief valve", every XFlow already has one, it's called an oil leak... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinten Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Cool, glad it was a useful post..! And when you say "pressure relief valve", every XFlow already has one, it's called an oil leak... LOL! That is very true... Trying slowly to eradicate them though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyonspride Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I used a MAHLE filter (possibly the OC23), they we're so cheap (about £3-£4) that I bought two, back when I was buying oil and some other bits online from Opie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinten Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 I used a MAHLE filter (possibly the OC23), they we're so cheap (about £3-£4) that I bought two, back when I was buying oil and some other bits online from Opie. Could you verify the part number for me please? I still haven't ordered anything, so the more options, the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyonspride Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 There are two for the x-flow, the OC21 for the 1.3 and the OC23 for the 1.6, and IIRC the only difference is the OC21 is shorter, so I have a feeling I bought that one in order to avoid having an oil filter sticking out below the chassis rail. But I shall take a look when I get back home later! What i'd defo avoid is the Halfords own brand filters, i've heard very bad things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Pete Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Happy to be corrected, but as I understand it if the flow rate/pressure is too great to pass through the filter it will result in the oil flowing via the by pass valve and not being filtered. I presume the larger filter has more surface and can therefore filter a higher rate of oil. Always ran a standard Ford Motorcraft filter on our old crossflow once pipercross stopped selling them. After 11 years of abuse it was stripped with no reported wear - unfortunately it have two burnt out forged pistons and scrapped, but that's another story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyonspride Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Confirmed im running the MAHLE OC21. Regarding size versus flow, the filter will have been designed taking into account sludge buildup and I change the oil so often that'll never happen. According to MAHLE's spec sheets: http://cdn.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/mahle/mahle-filters-uk-catalogue-2014.pdf (Page 122) OC21, all Escort (1.3 up to RS1600), except the RS2000 OC23, all Cortina except the 1.3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinten Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 Thanks for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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