TAFKARM Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Sorry if this is in the wrong section but I thought it probably the most relevant. I'm trying to do a few more track days this year, I'm an 'average' track day driver, I'm not a complete novice but I'm pretty far from a racing God. I know that tuition is the best way to go faster and I'm keen to develop my skills. Cut a long story short - how does tuition practically work in a car like mine? I can't hear anything so verbal 2 way comms while on track Isn't really going to work. Is there much benefit to be gained from having an instructor alongside waving his/her arms around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SootySport Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 If you had in-car comms. that would help. A chat every few laps when you have stopped is good enough for most instructors. Lets face it 10mins with an unknown driver in a tin top on the road or a track driver on the track and an experienced instructor will have a good idea where you are going wrong or going right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boombang Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Could try a motorbike intercom. I got one from LIDL years ago, a very cheap battery powered one meant for rider and passenger. Otherwise let them show you the lines in your car and use some sign language for feedback when you drive, then stop up every few laps as Bernie suggests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt nossiter Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Russ, Whenever I've had tuition the instructors will normally ask if there are any corners you are having problems with or if there there is anything in general that you would like to improve, then they normally ask you to do a few laps with them in the car with you and then to pit. Then they will suggest improvements and either let you put them into pratice yourself or if they have the time, go back out with you and indicate with simple hand signals where you should be placing the car, braking and accelerating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTR2Turbo Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I have had two types of instruction. Both times the instructor had an intercom that you wore also. Simply an ear piece under the helmet so you could hear him. The track instruction was at Cadwell and was mainly focussed on lines. The airfield instruction was IMHO more useful and focussed on weight transfer and car balance and generating over and understeer. There was plenty of space to spin etc so could really explore the limits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickmaster Andy Lowe Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I've had javelin track day instruction at Anglesey Hand signals and shouting Worked well It's nothing like when the wife is in the car shouting and waving her arms about 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKARM Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 sounds like it could still be worth while then. Definitely more interested in vehicle dynamics side of things rather than lines that potentially could only be useful for a specific track. An an side, I can't get on with intercoms, they always fall out of my ear when I've got the helmet on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTR2Turbo Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Russ Try to get along to the Cambs airfield day later in the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKARM Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 When is that David? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTR2Turbo Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Pm Cleggy. Normally end of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Banks Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Most trackdays will have some form of instruction. For example Woodbridge with Javelin have John and he is well accustomed to a Westfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander72 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I need some tuition as I am rubbish at driving round corners and braking at the right time. I think i'm fine in a straight line or in a queue waiting for the start…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggydoo Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 . I think i'm fine in a straight line or in a queue waiting for the start…. I heard you are particularly good in the butty queue. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickmaster Andy Lowe Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 sounds like it could still be worth while then. Definitely more interested in vehicle dynamics side of things rather than lines that potentially could only be useful for a specific track. Well I see your way of looking at it, but since instruction I use much more of every track I go to not just drive Anglesey better without thinking about it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander72 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I am very good in the nutty queue Shaggy - I even put my car in reverse on the start line at Rockingham….. burger van was behind me :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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