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Looks delicious @aegbut the Blueberry and Lemon cake at Trentham Gardens was amazing and I gave Sue the large slice as it's mother's day. The chocolate tart with mint chocolate sauce was not bad either that I had with our meal later. The car is booked in for it's MOT on Wednesday so fingers crossed. Looks like you all had a good day see you all soon hopefully.

Thanks @Julie Hall - WSCC AO Representative for another great day out , we would describe it as a bright and breezy day . Great to catch up with friends to chit chat and eat , oh and drive around the wonderful Peak District . I’m also feeling very proud of myself for being further up the ladder of “I know how to get home from here” than @ianali Our photo of the day is for @AndrewBClarke& @Andy Westwood you pair of losers 🤣 Catch you all soon luv Andy & Becky

Another 35 mile run out today. Engine running great again once I'd replaced the ignition leads and rebuilt the carb. An excellent drive in lovely weather. Engine currently running like a Swiss watch. The XI appears to have shrunk, and I haven't even been out in the rain yet 😅😎.

Many thanks for your advice @John Dolan - Wirral & North Wales AO. It's a pass for another pre cat engine on twin Webers. Just got to wait on DVSA now. Thanks also to the wider WSCC community, as there is some really valuable advice and support on this forum - real credit to you all! Absolutely buzzing now.

The red nose is part of your clowns outfit for when your topping your trees 🤡 because that’s going to be a right comedy show

And to prove that it drives as well as sits in a carpark! Disclaimer: it sounds and looks a lot faster than it really was.

8 Westfield's meeting at The Great British Car Journey We all scurried inside for breakfast and a catch up Look what's new on the menu, cake! scones made fresh that morning. We are coming here for lunch next time. Next we went on the route, everyone drove well and we all kept together. Thank you to Glynn for helping me, he knew the route and kept an eye on the rear of the convoy. I named it the 'Hang on Tight Tour' the wind was blowing and it felt like we were going fast even when we weren't, wind combined with uneven roads, phew. Good though, twisty, sunny and great views. Becky took a couple of photo's on the move. We arrived at the bikers cafe, The Yondermann. It was full of biker's so we sat outside. The Yondermann Yondermann overflow car park Yondermann seating area Chris and Mo joined us here and promptly ordered black pudding sausage rolls, good choice. Although all the food is good here. We followed the sun to The Pavillion at Baslow for cakes. The car park The seating area And finally the cake It's been lovely to see you all, your Westfield's are just fabulous, beautiful machines that look their best en mass. What a fantastic thing to do, to all meet up and drive along in the stunning Peak District, aren't we lucky? Thank you and see you next time x

Thank you Steve. Yes, I'm really pleased with the engine sound (maybe a tad too loud though). It's crisp and very revvy, no doubt due partly to the TTV lightweight flywheel and also the Megajolt ignition map. I may fit a Ferrari style gear gate as selecting 1st, and changing from 3rd to 2nd can be a lottery due to my remote linkage setup. I have lots of waving to do when out on a drive, and some people take photos as I drive past! Also many people smile at the 'fool in his toy car' 😅.

Not so quick Mr @aeg Photo below was sent to Julie on PM so as not to make you jealous.

Another brilliant day, thanks for organising Julie👍. Sunshine and a great route. Just about as good as it gets.

but... 1 diagonal really... as the actual wedge term is used in oval more than circuit. but... semantics. I use it to aim for a 50% (neutral wedge) that means 50/50 diagonals. The reason I say is 1 diagonal... is because the pure term is positive or negative wedge for left handed turning only cars not the case here, so you are correct, but I thought I may as well explain why the scales use the term wedge rather than diagonal %. correct. Correct if you were applying solely planar loads, but isn't the case once the car is moving. It naturally rolls and transfers loads, doesn't pulls laterally. correct to an extent. for drag racing, i would aim to 50% weight at the rear due the purely static start and lack of bends to deal (on the road anyway, as you have to steer a lot in a proper drag car). For any other scenario, I would trust to a rather decent LSD to take care of the first few metres till the loads have transferred to the back and the car has acted as I've said above as a wonky table. the masses will rotate from the roll centre height diagonally to load the unladen wheel. As soon as there is ANY sort of acceleration the dynamic transfer is actually huge. Braking is slightly different than accelerating. You can't brake without movement, therefore it will be a rather immediate weight transfer to the unladen corner (wonky table again) equalizing pretty much exactly the front load. (depending on the car stiffness you may be able to slam the brakes more aggressively or less). In another words, a softish car will ask for quite a lot of preload (progressive braking) rather than slaming the brakes, but we are not digging that deep. I don't do hardware changes when setting a car so its out of scope. It isn't me who likes it... I can quote some authors, and engineers, and racers... but... Milliken and Milliken is a good start. Or even the static load diagram of a braking or cornering scenario... The weight doesn't moves in a planar way, but rotates from the intersection of the roll centre height and the CG (the neutral wedge point) and this is why you will never adjust a car that is meant to steer, brake or accelerate to a 50% in the axles, unless you can do the same in all 4 of them corners (rather difficult if isn't a single seater, or something dedicated) because when the weight gets transferred you will end with massive differences in the front or rear axle...

Not sure where you are, but drive though Bibury in peak tourist season and watch as 100 Japanese tourists all get their video cameras out and film you! Then spend months on YouTube trying to see if any of them have posted the vids 😂

Isn't it amazing, we get so used to the size of our kits that we don't realise how small they are until we park in a normal car park next to normal cars. Same happened to me at AV8 Kemble/Cotswold Airport. I was quite shocked at how small the Flying Carrot looked!

Thanks for the lovely description of my pride and joy 😉

If Rip Van Dowler is waking up, I might join you.....🙂

could be a rule of thumb, yes.

Hi all, Maiden post as I thought I should introduce myself and the car properly! I've been a member for a while, but have been lurking as the fear of taking a much older kit through IVA was quite daunting! The car is original wide body kit type, pre SVA with 1600CVH on twin 40s. Basically the car got built twice - 90s early 2000s, stored in dry garage, then all major items reworked over last couple of years to meet IVA spec. Usual suspects, loom sleeved in convoluted tube and additional clips, IVA fog mod, collapsible steering column, side repeaters moved to cycle wings, fuel tank protection, lights, switches and protrusions all blunted, etc. D-day has now been and gone and although it failed, I'm more positive it will soon be blatting round the white peak area. The main failure was due to the emissions testing computer not wanting to work so the test had to be aborted. I really enjoyed the shakedown run to the test centre on a clear 3degC morning as the sun rose. Beat going to work anyway! However, this gave rise to the 2nd test failure as the sump gasket was now weeping which was promptly spotted as we moved further down the test lane. Fingers crossed for attempt #2 - date tbc. Looking forwarding... with a bit more optimism. Chris. Ticking itself cool. List of what ifs raising my blood pressure. First sign of an issue. Nurse it back home and prep for #2.

So... Not the case here. We are talking about Ian's car, and handling. Not drag racing nor ovals. I get your point, but I honestly doubt ill ever have in my scales a car that will not aim to 50% wedge. We do agree here. I think. You just seem to like to do the long worded version.

I didn't realise there was such a large difference in width, but that photo shows it up well.

Tbh I thought it sounded great and looked fast to me! I bet you get sooo much attention from pedestrians in that thing? 👍

I've also just realised that must be a narrow bodied Westie to the right of my orange SEiW? The difference in width is very obvious. First time I've ever noticed it though tbh.

No problem will message you the details.

Yes, but, you are mixing concepts here. Unless you do oval racing, or you like braking locking front wheels, there is no real reason of having positive or negative wedge. You are mixing static weight distribution (construction) and dynamic weight transfer. Cross weight its never been misleading, is a tool to mitigate the inherent unbalance due the non symmetrical construction of a car. Particularly important in a very light and small two seater.

yes I will be there

sorry to jump on ashes thread but i am looking to buy a new cage i would be interested in the group buy if you could pass the details on i would be very grateful

One we've got them to the heights were happy with. I'm not likely going to need to adjust them again.

The spring platforms are quite wound up, which paired with the taller top hats, are making the dampers hit full extension IMHO. A longer damper should be on the cards here to solve the problem, from what I can see. Or a shorter spring. Might be worth trying the old short top hats as well? As those might give you some more travel in this specific case.

The car on its 4 wheels on the floor wasn't at full extension. So initially i didn't even expect that to happen... Shouldn't be a preload problem. But yes sounds like is hitting the top at overextension. With the right rebound control, that should not happen either... And if it did at the end of its travel, shouldn't be as harsh as I heard in the videos Ian sent me once he got home... As it should be some sort of soft stop. We'll investigate further but the problem here seems to be the nature of the hardware, good or bad, isn't liking the current ride height. Im surprised other people found themselves with this problem too, as I have never encountered that. Maybe im too used to posher hardware. After a bump a correctly valved damper should control the body enough for preventing to go any higher than the resting position... At least with any sort of speed (by the end of its travel). Lowering significantly the car is out of the picture as is a full road going car.... Stiffening it too much too, as is s fully road going car. Some compromises may need to be made that Ill discuss with Ian on Thursday.

Would a longer spring not have solved that problem? I wonder if the raised ride height has now put the damper near to its fully open position and not left enough travel for it to work efficiently. A longer damper might be a solution, with less preload required on the spring. Too much preload can ultimately leave you with no suspension travel, or very little, such that it bangs fully open after you momentarily compress it on a bump or dip. I know because I've been there. At the correct ride height, with the correctly rated spring, the damper should still have some travel available in droop. All of the above is only my opinion and not necessarily fact.

Ladders.. best not mentioned. Anyone else catch the sun today? My nose is a little red.

Monthly meet for a natter and a pint, usual venue, The Crown Inn Bridport DT6 4AX from 19.30. Usual informal format, come and go as you please.

Sorry I missed this one Looks like you all had a great run out and the weather was kind ☀️☀️

Not sure if this would be of any interest but I know of someone looking to organise a group buy of Westfield cages from Caged Laser Engineering for our local Westfield group (I assume that's the one you want). There's a decent discount available if they can get enough interest and achieve the minimum order number required. I can give you the details of the person organising it if of any interest, even if it's just to find out what's on offer.

Installed "sound system" in Westfield, propably not best place for speakers in terms of sound, luckily I am far from being audiophile, so really happy with that Need to convert some audio files to mono from stereo and should be fine

I believe one of the keys on emissions on the day is get the engine good and hot (short of overheating of course) prior to the test, which helps burn any particles. It reminds me of a time in my distant youth. I owned a ‘66 Ford Galaxie 500 for a while, huge old aircraft carrier of a car, with a 428 cu in (7L) V8 engine so highly strung that needed high octane fuel and a regular blowout to stop the plugs fouling. I used to find a quiet side street, stick it in 2nd and leave about 100’ of tyre rubber behind. Eventually of course, I got caught by a cop who wasn’t impressed with my excuse of “I was only blowing the gunk out to it”. The car got sold shortly after to help pay the ticket.

I visited CleaR Motorsport yesterday to have a full geo and corner weighting set up. @Mark19691 joined us for the session as he's keen to have his car set up soon too. My car is just a few feet away from the scales as @Maurici- CleaR Motorsport get set up. Here's the start position (with me in the car)- I'm circa 70kgs. The scissor lift made it easy to remove the rear wheels. Unfortunately the rear (alloy) spring perches on both my rear Spax dampers are galvanically corroded to my steel bodied dampers. We didn't want me to end of immobilised, so brute force was limited. A quick call to @DamperMan confirmed there was little more we could do with the shocks on the car and he's offered a solution for me to take up in the future to resolve the issue. As my car is only used on the road, some may say corner weighting isn't necessary any how. My front camber was adjusted and this meant the toe needed to be adjusted again (it was done recently when @Maurici- CleaR Motorsport kindly did a home visit). Rear camber was spot on and rear toe also. A quick test drive confirmed all was well and car was turning in nicely and handling well. A great service by a very friendly and knowledgeable member. It's great to have such a service available again in the NW and only 25 miles away for me. A rear asset to the club and if you've seen any of his video's of him flying round Oulton in the Lobster, he clearly understand how a driver can get the best out of a chassis too!

My track car was set up just lie that when I bought it, very short dampers front and rear with no droop unless carrying occupants. Sadly it wasn't a drift machine, it was a determined under-steerer. I have yet to try it out with its new suspension, but hope there's some improvement .