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I’m leaning towards retro fitting a full FIA cage over the winter. The only reason I’m not 100% is the fact I need to drill my chassis rails as mine doesn’t have the pre-drilled holes already….🤔

From this site, it's a perfect fit. https://darkicedesigns.com/collections/individual-engine-caps/products/ford-petrol-oil-cap-zetec-duratec-ecoboost-f-acc-099-102

Definitely not talent, probably more to do with an under developed fear gland! 😂 No, it's not been on the dyno since fitting the throttle bodies, I installed the factory developed Omex map which works a treat. Obviously it's a bit more powerful but the throttle response is the main improvement, with the lightweight flywheel it punches very hard in gear but keeps the flexibility it always had.

They do DEFINITELY look awesome!

We must compare entry and exit techniques sometime 🤣

Is there an entry list? From what I see doesnt seem to have been populated yet....oh and I have entered

I have a full FIA cage, an aero screen and lowered floors on my car. As for disadvantages there are none, I get in and out through the top of the cage with and without a helmet on. I also have a custom tonneau which is no different than getting in a car with full wet gear, there’s a technique of getting in of course but no harder! The advantages are; extra safety compared to a normal roll bar, you feel much safer with it and they look awesome!

I find getting in through the side of a full cage is very easy, but getting out does need a bit of flexibility... Although nothing is as difficult as a standard car with full weather gear!

I've found it easier to get in with a cage and much easier to get out with one. I tried the top entry method, in fact I posted a video on here showing me attempting it as it was so flipping hilarious! If you're skinny no problem but at my size not good, much easier to get in and out from the side for me.

It looks stunning. Great spec list too. If I didn't already have one I'd be extremely tempted by that.

That's looking like an inspired move more and more these days!

For Sale - My Sport 250 registered 1 July 2021 in red. Built mainly during lockdown and has only covered 3200miles. Colour - Red/Carbon 247bhp 2.0L Ford Ecoboost Engine (270lb ft torque @ 2500rpm) Aim Digital Dash Carbon effect rear wheel arch protectors Honda Heater Team Dynamics Pro Race LT Wheels Protec (3rd Gen) Front & Rear Adjustable Shocks/Springs Mazda LSD ST250 Helix Clutch Roll Cage MSA ½ Cage Powerflex Suspension Bushes Westfield Wide Track Front & Rear Anti Roll Bars HiSpec Front & Rear Brakes Stirling Excel Multi-Point Immobiliser Quick Release Momo Stearing wheel ‘Raceline’ Wet Sump (10 deg) LED Headlights, Indicators Front & Rear, Reversing Light & Fog Light Westfield Self Cancelling Indicator control. Upgraded radiator by ‘Creative Aluminium Fabrications’ . Revotec Electronic Fan Controller Aluminium Header Tank Setrab Oil Cooler c/w shroud kit Red Top Battery – Relocated in Passenger Footwell Carbon-nv Front Splitter & Front Flared Side Panels Carbon-nv Front Aero Cycle Wings Carbon Effect Bonnet Catches Half Hood - Soft Top DAB/FM Radio & 6 Speakers! £19,995

I have two Westfields - full Cage FIA as above and with rear MSA rollbar. For me much, much easier to get in/out with rollbar. Also there was recent discussion re helmet in caged car on road not only on track. Additionaly worth to notice that this FIA Cage Has no properly protruding on side side bars.

I found it actually made it easier as you can grab on the bars and hoist yourself in! Also, getting in/out through the top was something I would often do especially when the half doors were on it.

That’s a mate’s car and it us utterly gorgeous! Goes like a bat out of hell 😁

About the same time, but to my knowledge the derision was only ever from those that were looking at kits for the first time. Those that knew about them were not in the slightest bit bothered about letters on a plate, unless they wanted to display something that (to them) looked cool. I actually fought with the DVLA to ensure I got a Q when I registered mine!

When you say full cage, do you mean the FIA full cage not their trackday cage? FIA Full cage Trackday cage

Get a bigger warehouse and you can add the dated registrations that have note 2 on their V5CW as well for all the people suspicious of q plates

How difficult is it to get into a car with a full cage ? I know it's possible to get a caged one without the side rails which probably helps things but I'm not sure I bend well enough to get out of what would be the door opening. I did see someone get in from the top at Gurston. The other thing I was wondering was how far above a standard windscreen the front rail was, I know the rear one is taller for helmet clearance.

Well whatever it is you are or are not doing is working! (natural talent? ) Have you had your car on the dyno since doing the last round of work on the engine and if so what was the differences between previous spec and now ? (throttle bodies?)

I'm still looking for either a full cage or better rear cage for my narrow SE. I have been offered one but it was made for a car with independent rear suspension and would have required a bit of work to use it.

My first kit was a Q plate, paid £4800 for it, sold it years later for £6000! I'm wondering if it's worth getting a warehouse, buying up all the Q plates and sitting on them until they make MOTing kits so hard they'll be worth a mint 😂😂 In the meantime I quite like this one..... https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/18612193 I know its listed on here too. Fab looking thing. Great spec but I know very little about those EcoBoost engines. Are they any good in a kit car?

Ive got a spare as well if anyone wants it Adult full weekend pedestrian enrty no car no camping

I'm not sure how long you've been around kits @Kingster, probably longer than my 12 years I reckon, but I can clearly remember Q plates being talked of in derogatory ways and attracting lower prices, but that now seems to be on the reverse! Mine is a 14 plate and right now I'd love a Q plate again specifically because of this MOT emissions issue we are now seeing. In fact if I sell the Carrot I will definitely be looking for a Q plate Westfield not a normal plated one. Anything for an easier kit car life!

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