WARNING REGARDING HIDDEN SPEED CAMERA VANS

[Tigger]

Isn't the point of the police to prevent crime ?

Now that's an interesting point.

I believe that the constitutional role of the police is to locate lawbreakers and offer them to the judicial system for the evidence to be considered and (if guilty) an appropriate punishment to be given. Not to actualy prevent crime in the first place.

Our society is subjected to ever increasing numbers of rules. For the police to move from catching to preventing criminals/criminal behaviour would require a dramatic change in the relationship between the government and the populace, as well as each of us acting with a much greater sense of personal responsibility. If this were to happen, I think we'd end up with a much better society.

Brian

Taken from the National Policing Plan here, it states: The core role of the police is to prevent and reduce crime and anti-social behaviour.

Moreover they are then allowing drivers of speeding cars to continue to be a danger to themselves and other road users, don't think that it's an argument that I would like to test in court but I do think that it is a fair point if the point of these is to change people driving habits and not just to raise cash....

I agree with Neilb, by just setting covert cameras, all they are doing is raising cash letting the motorists continue to break the law and possibly cause accidents.

Surely this is the wrong way to go about it

Tiggs

[steve_m]

There's a high number of cars with false plates in the south east, mainly caused by the congestion charge in london I'd guess.  This will only get worse if the police are using covert scameras like this.

[Blatman]

North Wales is nowhere near the South East... thank goodness...

[Paul Hurdsfield - Joint Manchester AO]

North Wales is nowhere near the South East... thank goodness...

10/10 for geography  

1/10 for tact and diplomacy  

[steve_m]

North Wales is nowhere near the South East... thank goodness...

Neither is Buxton, you know what I mean you plank    

The more they steal and cheat the more common false plates or no plates will become.

[steve_m]

1/10 for tact and diplomacy  

So no change there then    

[neilb]

Just wondering how long it will be before someone has an accident shortly after being caught by one of these hidden cameras goes on to sue the police for failing in there duty of care to prevent an accident

[Blatman]

North Wales is nowhere near the South East... thank goodness...

Neither is Buxton, you know what I mean you plank    

[Blatman]

North Wales is nowhere near the South East... thank goodness...

10/10 for geography  

1/10 for tact and diplomacy  

I was always quite good at geography...

[wipper]

Is this "National Love The Police day" today?

Never seen so many pro-police posts!!!  

Thoughts I'd logged on to the wrong forum!!  

We all know the Police are just milking us for what little we have left after filling our tanks!    

[Norman Verona]

The police are subject to the same laws we all are. They cannot put false plates on their vehicles.

The Police are not raising cash by the use of speed cameras, the politicians are.

If you are speeding then you are breaking the law. Therefore to isn't realy "prevention" it's catch drivers who break the law. It's no different to being caught by a traffic car other than the cameras in question are covert.

The root of the problem is the unappropriate speed limits being set by local authorities.

Not accusing anyone but when a child is knocked down by a speeding car in a surbaban side steet there is an outcry, and rightly so.

Having been caught speding, probably more than anyone here, I've never complained. I know the rules and I know the penalties for breaking them.

After all that, better have a couple of      

[spence]

Pics of said Rogue traders scumbag builders van.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=525043

[perksy]

The police are subject to the same laws we all are.

         

Do you really think this    

Might be worth you reading this then   CLICKY

[windy]

To counter the abundance of brainwashed "speed kills" people on here all of a sudden!!!

Can't see what the problem is with speed personally - in the right circumstances  

http://lifeandhealth.guardian.co.uk/motoring/story/0,,1610054,00.html

& work can be a pleasure sometimes because the laws of our nanny state do not apply to my day job thank goodness                  

[jak]

Yeah, but do you mind be called a cucumber by the journalist?