njkmrs Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Hello all . Looking to buy a Westfield in the very near future . Very keen on the Cosworth Westfields I have seen recently . Any views on them .I have never had this type of car before ,but have had some performance vehicles,eg Saphire Cosworth 4wd,Subaru WR1 etc ,plus Fireblade. I have done a few trackdays on 2 and 4 wheels and this is what I would be buying for now. Are there many Cos Westfields about ,any owners on here etc . Views and tips ,pics would be appreciated. Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cng1 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Check out www.g2.nu/chris/westie for lots of info on L16COS which is the original cosworth westie. I'm assuming here that you're talking about a turbo installation as IMO a natasp cossie is a waste of time, you're far better off starting with a duratec or vauxhall engine if you want natasp. My car is great in that it's easy to live with pootling around town but is an absolute beast if you want it to be, with so much power you can afford to have plenty of creature comforts which makes long distance driving a (relative) joy. The cars you have already mentioned are all 4WD and you can drive them like a car video game, a 2wd car with less than half the weight will be a real shock to the system and for sure you will be slower round the track initially than in a scoob although it will feel an awful lot faster. Now for the downsides, big power means big costs and turbos mean lots of heat and plumbing related issues to deal with. L16COS was the factory demonstrator back in '93 so when I got her in 2001 she had already gone through a lot of development before I rebuilt her, in the last 5 years it has been a constant development process, which is rewarding, frustrating and expensive in roughly equal measures. If you end up with a cossie powered car I can you skip out most of the development work but you're going to need to be prepared to write the cheques and get your hands dirty Personally I'd suggest you get a zetec powered and aeroscreened car and run that for a year or so before deciding that you need a fan assisted YB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njkmrs Posted June 19, 2007 Author Share Posted June 19, 2007 Thanks cng1 . Some good stuff there to look at . I think the turbo cosworth is the one for me .I realise it will be a handfull and more more demanding to drive than my previous cars,but thats what its all about,hone my driving skills to the car on the track ,starting somewhere nice and wide like Elvington !! Just in the process of releasing some funds and then I will see if I can find one in my price range. Again thanks for the info . Anybody else got experience with one of these ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffythefirst Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Got a cossie turbo Dax, its great but modifying and upgrading it is a never ending expensive process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njkmrs Posted June 19, 2007 Author Share Posted June 19, 2007 Any pics or more info on this Scruffythefirst !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffythefirst Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 What do you want to know? As chris says, the extra power and torque mean touring and pootling round town are easy, with massive overtaking grunt. Not driven it on track yet but I am planning on doing a training day with andy walsh and then some airfield days. Pretty easy to drive on the road with getting the back out pretty easy and controllable. Running a mappable ecu which as chris will tell you makes the power delivery much better, it also allows me to switch between boost settings - I normally run 240bhp but can have 265 at the flick of a switch. If I want more power its really new turbo time, as although I could run more boost the temperatures of the charge air would start to get out of hand as the boost runs off the edge of the compressor map. I'm having a few problems with the cooling since removing the heater (as much use as a chocolate fireguard really as the turbo does a nice job of roasting your feet) so now need to fit an oil cooler to compensate - its never ending, not to mention the exhaust I've been meaning to replace ever since SVA. I did however just drive to lemans and back 2 up with the cambridge area and had a lot of fun, despite the rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njkmrs Posted June 19, 2007 Author Share Posted June 19, 2007 No specific questions to be honest,I am just trying to get a feel from owners of this type of car ,as to ease of ownership ,reliability ,fun ,etc . It would not be doing massive mileage to be honest and I am fairly mechanically sympathetic to my cars .Warm up ,cool down etc ,etc but I dont particularly have the time to start fabricating parts or anything like that ,so I am after road /track ready that just needs looking after .(I am a lazy cnunt ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffythefirst Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 QUOTE I am fairly mechanically sympathetic Thats probably a good thing, I smashed my diff last tuesday (2 days before leaving for lemans) due to a minor mounting issue - easily overlooked and would probably never caused a problem in a normal westy but let go with a very loud bang launching the car sideways out of a junction. If your not prepared / able to do work yourself, upgrades and maintenance will be expensive, as most garages wouldn't know where to start and the specialists will be expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjonnie Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I run a turbo cosworth. Didn't build it but is now 10yrs old. Running stage 1 around 270bhp. 2wd engine, 2wd intercooler, Davies Craig water pump and controler. Never runs hot even in traffic. Kicks ass including bikes. Can e-mail photos. Sure their are lighter cars, probably better suited engines etc, but I love the thrill the cossie gives. I came from fast bikes to the world of westfields and don't miss them one bit. Mr Jonnie. Bradford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njkmrs Posted June 20, 2007 Author Share Posted June 20, 2007 Pics would be great mrjonnie. I have sent you my e-mail address. I am fairly close to you near Rochdale ,so maybe I could have a look at your motor,if possible?? Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankczechbook Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 the guru on cossies used to be a regular on these pages..... in his immortal words "..do a search" sorry, i've got me coat already :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterg Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 QUOTE as IMO a natasp cossie is a waste of time I saw this comment and wondered if he would rise to the bait but it seems he is still lying low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Loudon - Sponsorship Liaison Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Gary Bunn and Chris Elworthy run NA Cossies. I dont know where you get the idea that they are a waste of time from. They have more grunt than is practically usable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godsy1969 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 as IMO a natasp cossie is a waste of time As a nat asp YB owner I raised an eyebrow to this one. Still it's his opinion and entitled to it no matter how wrong he is. I'd be interested to hear how he draws this conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algie Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 njkmrs We ( my son and I ) bought a Westfield Cosworth Turbo 4 years ago, its an easy drive when you want it to be and an animal at times, we are in Warrington if you want a ride Algie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.