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Engine sorted/Suspension sorted and set up/ Tyres bought. Now pads. I am looking at greenstuff for front and red stuff for back (hopefully to stop the back locking first). Are EBC the best??

What pads would you advise for my 173bhp speedsport. weight 620kgs. 2 pot standard Westie calapers.

Has lucus pads at present seem to do a good job.

Fast road (not that fast officer) and Track day use.

Cheers

Stuart

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There's at least two opinions on pads probably more very soon - Hawk Black and EBC Green  ???

I use EBC green on front and some cheapo bog standard Motorfactor things on the back - single M/C, M16 callipers, solid discs - and as I've said before mine stops bl**** well. But will probably put some red stuff in for higher temp longer track days, cos green fades at high temps.

Next ...............................  ;)  :D  :)  Lets get this debate going ....................

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mintex 1155 front standard rears solid pedal great feel would not even go down the ebc route but thats my personal view.(oh and the view of people that have a handful of bits that were suposed to be a pad after 1 track day and we are not talking just 1 person)

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Never done a track day but have green stuff front and back and the pedal feel is much better than Ferrodo premium road pads. ;)

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There seams to be a difference of opinion between Different front and back and the same back and front. My understanding was that you need grippier brakes on the front thus stopping the rear from locking when it goes light under breaking. Or am I talking S**t ???

Stuart

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I use Greenstuff on the front and "normal" cheapo Halfords/Ferodo on the rear on the sprint car. As per the illustrious Mr Stanton, if I was to attack track days with anything more than a casual approach, I'd have Red Stuff in the front. I'd leave the nasty cheapos in the rear. I have no experience with Mintex 1155's (like Red Stuff) or 1144's (like Green Stuff), and opinions will certainly vary.

Whatever you choose, you want a pad with a slightly lower co-efficient of friction in the rear, compared to the front.

Disclaimer:

If you stack your car 'cos your brakes are crap after following the advice herein, don't blame me. These are only my uneducated opinions as a brake user........

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Does anybody use, and rate, Pagid pads ?  The c******m boys seem to like them in Blue or Orange compounds but they are VERY expensive.

Ian

P.S.  Green stuff - pretty good but I get a lot of dust from them even on sprints and EBC say this is because they are running too hot.

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i agree with Blatman    

except he is an ebc man and i love mintex ,you can't really express an opinion unless you have tried both but for some people thats seams expensive.it can be hard to swap out pads that are not very worn , i have about 4 or 5 diff sets ina box that may have only done half a day but ther you go.

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I currently use Ferodo DS2000’s for road/track use in my existing car (MKIII Golf – don’t laugh), as I found EBC wear life very lacking (I’m sure I shouldn’t kill a set of pads in one session) Pagid were a little better on wear, but faded after the second lap. Can I assume that consensus (for a Westy) seems to be to use EBC Green pads, and are these still OK for track use?

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Does anyone know the part number for the 'standard' Westfield 2 pot caliper front pads for the EBC Green stuff ones?

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Don't know the part number, but just ask for pads for the Ford M16 caliper which is very common as it was used on most Escorts/Capris and a bunch of other cars from other manufacturers.

Ian

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Thanks for starting the pads debate again. After an excellent weekend of blatting about, I was thinking of doing the search on the forums to find information about the green stuff pads, so now I don't have to bother hunting for the info.

One thing though, anyone got a number to call so I can get my hands on some?

Ta

Stu

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I currently use Ferodo DS2000’s for road/track use in my existing car (MKIII Golf – don’t laugh), as I found EBC wear life very lacking (I’m sure I shouldn’t kill a set of pads in one session)

Try not to compare whathappens with tintops to the effects on a Westfield - the weight you're trying to stop is gonna be a lot lot less (unless I'm in it  :D  :) )

There's also a few bad reports going around on EBC when used on track days - but these have generally been with Tintops - braking although heavy and hard is a lot lighter loading via a Westfield.  :)  ;)

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Harv

I am confused

If the 1155's are the equivelent of Red pads do they suffer from having to be warmed up to work properly. Have you tried 1144's?

What do you use your car for? Mine will  be mainly for Road use with about 5 track days a year.

Cheers

Stuart C

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