Popular Post Richard (OldStager) Posted January 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) The following calipers are the most common that are fitted Westfield 7 cars, for calipers relating to the Westfield 11 see towards the bottom of this post. Please Note Check your old pads carefully against any drawings of new replacements, before ordering, and, especially if you have after-market calipers fitted, be aware that some caliper manufacturers, may modify brake pads designed for OEM use, to work properly on some of their own models. This can include machining of the steel back plates and/or the friction material. Always compare carefully, any new pads, to the old ones before fitting, especially if they were not supplied by the manufacturer of your calipers. __________________________________________________________ Ford M16. Mintex 1144 - ref. MGB633 Mintex 1155 - ref MGB633M1155 Mintex 1136 - now discontinued QH - QHA BP102 ( Standard road pads) Borg & Beck - 1095 ( Road) Ferodo DS Performance - FDS167 / FER167 Ferodo DS2500 - FCP167H Ferodo DS3000 - FCP167R Ferodo DS 1.11 - FCP167W Ferodo DS UNO - FCP167Z EBC Greenstuff - DP2291 Pagid RS15 - E4905 Hawk - HB169 ____________________________________________________________ Hi Spec 4 pot - Westfield Race EBC Green Stuff - DP2003 ( Narrow) or DP2008 (Wide) Ferodo DS2500 - FRP218H (N) or FRP219H ( W) Ferodo DS3000 - FRP218R (N) or FRP219R ( W) Mintex M1144 - MDB120044 (N) or MDB186444 (W) Mintex M1155 - MDB120055 (N) or MDB186455 (W) Carbon Lorraine RC5 - 5007W40T16-RC5 (N) or 5007W43T16-RC5 (W) ____________________________________________________________ Hi Spec 4pot Ultralites / Westfield Ultralites 4 pot Available in either 40mm or 50mm Measure your old ones before ordering. Hi Spec 2 pot With cut out Without cutout Mintex 1144 - ref. MDB1890 - 4 pot pads. Mintex 1144- MGB535 - with half moon cut out. 2 pot Mintex 1144 - MGB533 - without cut out. 2 pot EBC Greenstuff - DP2143 - 4 pots. EBC - DP197M - 4 pot pads EBC - DP106M - 2 pot pads EBC ( Standard pad) - ref. DP1537 Ferodo DS1.11 - FCP1562W - 4 pots Ferodo DS2500 - FCP1562H - 4 pots Ferodo DS UNO - FCP1562Z - 4 pots Ferodo DS3000 - FCP1562R - 4 pots Apec - PAD1356 ___________________________________________________________ AP Racing 4 Pot ( Westfield Branded) Caliper model - CP7605 Pad Shape - CP7600D46 Mintex M1144 - MDB2027M1144 Ferodo DS2500 - FDSR3085 / FRP3085H Ferodo DS3000 - FRP3085R Ferodo DS1.11 - FRP3085W Ferodo DS Uno FRP 3085Z Ferodo - CP7600D46 DS25HP ( TBC) Carbone loraine RC5 Plus - 5038W45T16 Carbotech - CT CP7600D46 XP8 ( used back plates may be required when ordering) AP Racing - CP7600D46 Pagid - 20349 Pagid -4349 PFC - 7834 Caliper Spares - Part numbers. Courtesy of @DMc AP Racing caliper parts list.rtf ____________________________________________________________ Wilwood Dynalite / Raceleda R16 / Bremsport. Mintex M1144 - MDB1796M1144. Mintex M1155 - MDB1796M1155 EBC Greenstuff - DP2001 Hawk Black - HB237 Hawk - TAS 2865 Hawk - Blue 9012 Wilwood - Polymatrix Q Compound - WIL15Q-6824K ____________________________________________________________ Outlaw M-16 PFC 7754.16 Hawk HB237 EBC Yellowstuff - DP4010R EBC Orangestuff - DP9010 ____________________________________________________________ Wilwood Powerlite 4 pots Ferodo DS2500 - FER3108H Ferodo DSUNO - FRP3108Z Ferodo DS1.11 - FRP3108W Mintex M1144 - MDB2905M1144 Mintex M1155 - MDB2905M1155 EBC Greenstuff - DP2057 ____________________________________________________________ Wilwood Midilite 4 pot Mintex M1144 - MDB2581M1144 Mintex M1155 - MDB2581M1155 EBC Greenstuff - DP2039 Ferodo DS2500 - FRP502H Ferodo DS3000 - FRP502R Wilwood - Mid Range Smart Pads - 150-8854K ____________________________________________________________ CAT Motorsport 4 pots. Based on an early version of a Wilwood Dynalite, also closely replicates the Outlaw caliper. Carbotech - CTMW7112-XP8 Porterfield - Type 7112 - part number to follow Wilwood Polymatrix - 15Q-6824K Wilwood BP10 - 150-8850K Ongoing ____________________________________________________________ VW Golf (Rears) Mintex M1144 - MDB1382 Mintex M1144 - MDB 1377M1144 Hawk - HB364 N.642 Brembo - P85020 _________________________________________________________ Mazda MX5 SDV. - NA Front Mintex-MDB1686 Brembo -P49020 Ferodo - FDB1011 Apec - PAD900 Febi Bilstien - 16497 Bosch - 0986494080 or 0986494655 Padgid - 8DB355016-861 Borg and Beck - BBP1583 Q&H - BP906 or MBP906 Bendix - 510298 --- Rear Eicher - 101680129 Ferodo - FDB1012 Ferodo - FSL1012 Ferodo - 23389 Ferodo - 23388 Mazda - NAY52643Z Mazda - NAY5-26-43ZA Mazda - NCY12643Z TRW - GDB3129 Pagid - 8DB 355 027-491 ATE - 13046058652 TRUSTING - 4080 ____________________________________________________________ Ford Sierra ( Rears). BOSCH: 0986469810 ATE: 13046029282 FORD: 1637872 FORD: 1652206 TEXTAR: 20981137 WVA: 20981137 Jurid: 571408J FORD: 6785599 FORD: 87GB2M008BA COMLINE: ADB0394 EBC: DP2617 FIRSTLINE: FBP1496 Ferodo: FDB398 - Now Discontinued. Ferodo DS2500 - FCP408H Ferodo DS3000 - FCP408R TRW: GDB472 DELPHI: LP507 MINTEX M1144- MDB1287 MOPROD: MDP424 Brake ENGINEERING: PA450 APEC: PAD537 Veco: VA331 MOTAQUIP: VXL520 ACDelco: AC468981D ABTEX: PLU398 Bettaparts: PLU398 Bettaparts: ABP398 Carbotech - CT382-XP8 ____________________________________________________________ Land Rover Discovery Mk1. Calipers from the rear used on the front of a Westfield Type - Lockheed 3242 292C L8 PQ Suits 93 to 97 model years AP LOCKHEED - 5867A1R8 M APEC - 8823 PAD 582 1 OD23 Mintex - SFP500190 Delphi - 211/6 Brembo - P44003 EBC Ultimax 2 - SFP000270E ____________________________________________________________ Calipers used on the Westfield 11 ( if not using any of the above ). MG Midget standard calipers Mintex M1144 - MLB37M1144. MG Midget KAD 4 pot upgrade Mintex M1144 -MLB65M1144 ____________________________________________________________ This post will be updated / modified should pads become discontinued or superceeded as we discover them. Edited January 20, 2022 by OldStager 12 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinten Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I think I've got some CAT branded calipers on the front of my SEiGHT... are they just a rebrand of one of the above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 As I say, I think these are a variation of the Outlaw M16's, but there are a number of calliper variations similar that are badged Outlaw M16, (Technically, Outlaw were the brand, M16 was the mounting lug fitment - Ford M16 replacement, for Cortina, Escort etc), Comp Brake is a good company still looking after spares for many of these callipers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 57 minutes ago, Quinten Uijldert - Webmaster said: I think I've got some CAT branded calipers on the front of my SEiGHT... are they just a rebrand of one of the above? Are your pads this shape?, if so they are outlaw ones. If they are the same I will add that to the Outlaw section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 or this shape / size This is the 2000 range of the Outlaw Caliper, which is the same as the Wilwood Dynalite in its mounting lugs- other I posted is the 2800 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 As if it can't get even more complicated is it this one as well. Wilwood Superlite, Outlaw 3000/4000 All info coming from https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=HB101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCh Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I can shed a little light on the Cat Motorsport calipers pictured above. They were apparently based on an older version of the Willwood Dynalite that used a slightly larger locating pin than the recent versions. A current Dynalite pad will work provided the locating pin holes in the backing plates are slightly enlarged. Carbotech and Porterfield both refer to this as the 7112 shape. I have run pads from both companies (XP8 and R4S) and confirm they fit with this simple modification. And for those interested, I have old emails from Andy at Cat that have conflicting information about the origin of those calipers. In one he states they are Dynalites, but in a later email he states they are Outlaw M16. When I contacted Outlaw a few years ago to confirm the origin, they stated they never supplied Cat and after seeing photos of the calipers, replied "Wow! Those really look like a complete copy of our calipers but with the faces machines and the top of the caliper modified for a different pad. I designed the caliper that we supply but i think someone just copied ours to produce those." -John 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 Thanks John, since I embarked on this journey, it's getting more complicated the more I find out. I will try my best to add that, but now confused as to where these belong in the above list... I will wait for @Quinten Uijldert - Webmaster to reply and go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCh Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 That's why I hesitated to reply to this thread earlier 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Thanks all for the massive effort this has taken, will move it to the FAQ now, and tidy the thread, as all the information is now in the main post. (Note, the contribution posts are simply hidden, we don't delete, but thanks for everyone that helped Richard on this project). D 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 Thank you Dave and everone who gave me pointers. Hope it helps folks down the road, there will be calipers new to WSC in the future and pads where poined out will be added or commented on as they come in. 👍 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Broster - Bristol & Bath AO Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Just to add a little extra... My Sierra SDV had Sierra Uprights and Iron/Steel Single Piston Calipers/Vented disks up front and Drum brakes at rear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafod Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Hi Richard, great post and a really useful reference document, would it also be useful to add the related replacement brake disks to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaky Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Love this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenb_123 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Sorry to bring this topic back again but looks like some good knowledge here and hope someone can help me….. 2.0L Zetec 2013 SEIW…..I want to get some Mintex 1144 or possibly similar Ferado pads such as DS2500 to replace my existing Westfield pads. I have been struggling (after much searching) to find the right size/shape. I have managed to find some a similar size but a few mm larger in height in terms of the overall size and some don’t the curved bottom which I think is essential. I think these may be ok for the rear but showing as a few mm higher but maybe just more metal above the pins so not important? https://www.burtonpower.com/brake-pads-hi-spec-sva-ultralite-2-caliper-mgb535m1144-hi.html And possibly these for the front but really not sure as the bottom isn’t Curved and again a few mm higher https://www.burtonpower.com/brake-pads-hispec-ultralite-2-4-calipers-mdb1890m1144.html Any help really appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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