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1998 Westfield SEiGHT steering rack gaiters


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I need some steering rack gaiters for a factory build 1998 Westfield SEiGHT. Spares Service told me that all Westfields have the same gaiters, but the ones sent seem short having only 8 or 9 (driver side) convolutions, whereas the ones on the car have 12 and 13 respectively. The Mk2 Escort seem similar to the ones sent by Spares Service. Searching the internet suggests the Ford Cortina Mk3 are closer to what are on the car. Does anybody on this forum have direct experience with this item on an SEiGHT?

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Hello.

I have a 2009 Seight so might be different. Took the car to Rimmer Bros to let the technicians take a look but the ones they had were too big a diameter to fit the link. This in effect ruled out older Ford, Rover and BL parts. In the end resorted to the Westfield Parts Department version which went on a treat in the end - once I had removed the rod end….

 

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Thanks, Andrew, for info and pic. I found a couple of other references on the Forum, but with differing conclusions. Your ‘stock’’ gaiters look different to the ones I have received (refs:2E10-4 and 9E10-1), re the detail of the gaiter track rod end not having a mini-convolution. How many convolutions do your gaiters have? The ones on my car are more generous length with more convolutions. On checking steering range, I need extension of about 8cm, from about 13-21cm lock-lock on the passenger side. Looking at the dimensions of the gaiters received from Parts I should just about get that on full stretch. Here’s hoping 🤞 

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To be honest, you need to know what rack you have - not what model of car. 

Most of us use the escort mk2 rack, but that isn’t necessarily the case - because whoever built your car (or modified it in between) may have decided to go leftfield 😁

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Thanks, Chris. Of course, you are right, and that’s why my first enquiry was to Westfield Parts because it was Westfield factory built so I expected them to know but maybe they did not make or keep records in that era. The items they sent me look like Escort Mk2 type. Somewhat frustrating🤔

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The problem we have, is that unfortunately, Mk2 Escorts went out of production in 1980, with the best will in the world, original, (brand new) OEM Ford racks didn’t last fro the next forty years! (Ironically, you probably stood a better chance of having a genuine Ford rack on a home built car from the nineties, at least, onwards, as you could put a second hand one on.

 

Westfield, on new builds, had to use brand new racks, which for decades has meant generic “pattern” copies, not Ford originals.

 

The problem with these copies, is that in order to count as a Mk 2 Escort rack, it doesn’t have to be 100% identical to the Ford item, it just hasn’t to fit in the same place on the car, bolt to the same connections, column, steering arms etc, and have roughly the same steering geometry. As long as the case, bellows etc don’t foul anything on a Mk2 Escort, their precise shape and design can vary to suit the manufacturer.

 

Im afraid the steering gaiters seem to be amongst the things that vary the most. Cost for the maker is the driving thing with most, so I guess they try and have as many common rack gaiters across their whole range as possible.

 

Years ago, on my first Westfield, I bought a mk2 Escort gaiter set and only one side fit! (And not well). Ended up returning it, and going to a proper old style car spares shop. There, the owner literally went through the “book”, comparing the two old gaiters I took in to the catalogue/bible. In the end, I ended up with one Mk2 Escort gaiter and one mk3 (I think) Fiesta gaiter, both from a different supplier to the first I’d tried, and the combo fitted perfectly!

 

On older cars, I doubt Westfield still have detailed records of the supplier/manufacturer of things like the racks. If it’s in their system still, it would probably just show as Escort Mk2. and not much else.

 

Of the current factory ones aren’t right, search out a decent car parts shop, and take the current bits in, when it’s quiet!

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if your rack is this one

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then you can have the gaiters from it.

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westfield replaced my rack some years ago following an insurance claim, the new rack they fitted has different sized gaiters on it so these are going spare now.

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2 hours ago, emds41 said:

Thanks, Andrew, for info and pic. I found a couple of other references on the Forum, but with differing conclusions. Your ‘stock’’ gaiters look different to the ones I have received (refs:2E10-4 and 9E10-1), re the detail of the gaiter track rod end not having a mini-convolution. How many convolutions do your gaiters have? The ones on my car are more generous length with more convolutions. On checking steering range, I need extension of about 8cm, from about 13-21cm lock-lock on the passenger side. Looking at the dimensions of the gaiters received from Parts I should just about get that on full stretch. Here’s hoping 🤞 

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Theses are the photos of mine - spare supplied by Westfield and the one fitted. Hope this answers your questions. The issue at Rimmers was the diameter of the link bar to the rod end - they didn’t have a version that was that small so this discounted most old Ford versions. 
 

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as supplied by Westfield 

and what is fitted seems the same -

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I’m really impressed with the Bailcast brand ‘duraboot’ universal ones. I had some expensive original spec boots on the Mazda rack on my project and they were horrible stiff plastic things. The Bailcast are a really flexible and incredibly tough synthetic rubber. Cheap, too. They do a variety of generic universal ones that you trim to fit, just find the right one for your application.

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Thanks everybody for all the information and advice. I now have a much better idea of the issues involved and how to resolve it with my car.

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