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Ricky_B

I am currently running a 4 speed ford gearbox on my xflow, however want to change this to a 5 speed type 9, I have seen one on eBay but it says it has a Pinto bell housing, can I just swap the bell housing over from my existing box or something else???

 

Also what over parts will I need to change? 

 

Thanks

 

Richard 

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Arm

Hi. You should be able to swap it over. One comment the type 9 is not a great box and although you get a 5th gear you get a crazy low first. Better to have the type 9 rebuilt before fitting and have the ratios modified to make more suitable.

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Rory's Dad

Windy did mine with just a long first gear. Just makes all the difference. 

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Ricky_B
5 hours ago, Rory's Dad said:

Windy did mine with just a long first gear. Just makes all the difference. 

 

Sorry for the dumb question but a long first. Do you mean higher ratio first??

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SootySport

Long first means the engine doesn't rev its nuts off at a slow speed.    Usual ratio for type 9 is 3.2 to 1 or thereabouts depending on which car it was originally fitted by Ford.   There are few revised ratio options available now from specialist Gearbox compamies such as BGH Geartech, SPC, Quiafe.   They range from 2.4/1  to to 3.2/1 .      2.7/1 is useful for a road car. 

Have a look Ratio for examples of what's available

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BillyPee

One thing to bear in mind is that you might find, like mine, that the extension stands proud above the chassis rail about an inch, so you have to get creative with the tunnel top.

 

15 hours ago, Ricky_B said:

Also what over parts will I need to change? 

 

As for other parts, you might want to consider replacing the clutch while you have the engine and box separated. I had BGH refurb and long first my Type 9 last year and I changed to a lighter TTV flywheel and HD clutch. Spigot bearing and clutch release bearing may as well be changed to. I don't know length of the 4 speed bell hosing but if the length is significantly different over the Type 9 then you might need a longer shorter prop. 

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KenP

Can't recall the exact details but I am sure there's a 'long' or 'short' input option on the T9 box and from memory you need the short but best to ask the question of someone with some really expertise 

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pistonbroke
50 minutes ago, KenP said:

Can't recall the exact details but I am sure there's a 'long' or 'short' input option on the T9 box and from memory you need the short but best to ask the question of someone with some really expertise 

 

Talk to Brian at BGH Geartech , what he doesn't know about type 9's just isn't worth knowing :t-up:

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KenP
3 hours ago, pistonbroke said:

 

Talk to Brian at BGH Geartech , what he doesn't know about type 9's just isn't worth knowing :t-up:

Agreed, that's what I did.

 

There is so info on their website Here

 

 

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Dave Licence - Devon and Somerset AO
7 hours ago, KenP said:

Can't recall the exact details but I am sure there's a 'long' or 'short' input option on the T9 box and from memory you need the short but best to ask the question of someone with some really expertise 

 

Correct, the long input shaft is for the V6 - short input shaft for everything else I believe. Longer first gear ratio would be a joy!

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