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So i was thinking of buying a Pre lit but it still shows on the DVLA website as a Cortina. Does this mean it hasnt been through an IVA, would it need to be, if so will it be to todays standard?

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You may well have issues with it being incorrectly registered and may well have to be IVA inspected. Maybe worth giving a call to the DVLA and see where they are on this issue as things can change there.

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25 years ago the rules were very different, and I believe many kit cars of that era are registered as the donor car. I'd agree that a call to DVLA would be sensible.

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Well, a call to DVLA said yes to IVA but recommended a call to DVSA.

A call to DVSA said IVA needed to 1972 standards for the doner vehicle.

Whats a pre lit worth?

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What does it say under "body type" on the V5C? If it says sports or convertible then it should be an easier administration process to amend the "manufacturer" to westfield than if it says saloon in whcih case this would entail an IVA. 

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Long time ago my Pre-lit was registered as an Escort and I had over 6 months of grief with the DVLA over what to do. They inspected the car ( well second time round as they forgot the first time !) and it was before the days of computers and emails. So, letters and calls went and nothing. Then I called them and said my road tax had expired and I am going to drive it. The lady then said ' I will change the docs to Westfield and send it back to you, so you can tax it ' :rolleyes:

This was '96 ish , so wont be that simple now sadly.

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You need to see exactly what it says on the V5 and is there evidence of it being that way for years, MOT tests for example that say Westfield, or cortina convertible. Any paperwork for the kit with dates etc.

There was an amnesty for some time for kits where the old local offices had unique ways of registering kits, Duttons were triumph based specials etc. Without any evidence it is these days impossible to get a log book changed, with it you have a chance.

As for value, with no registration whatever a person is prepared to pay basically based on the sum of the parts. Look on Ebay and £3-5k will buy one correctly registered. If it is a project look at the recent build thread and IVA hoops he had to jump through and then come up with your offer.

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They had a amnesty on kit cars incorrectly registered years ago and allowed owners to send in the V5's and have them altered to show correctly. 

Pretty sure now you will need to IVA it

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Thanks for your help peeps. 

Log book. They are waiting for a replacement.

On my other one there is a brass coloured chassis plate on the bulk head but not on this one. 

I have walked away. :yes:

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The chassis member in front of the engine was the only place they put the chassis number and unless you made a plate up, that was it. I had arguments with the DVLA as they said it needed to be a certain amount of number and letters and also needed to be put in a better location. From speaking to the factory, that isn't the case. You could get it through IVA if required ( which would be highly likely now) but you would need to factor that into the price. Sadly someone will buy it and just change the names on the docs and carry on with using it as a Cortina. The people that watch cars like this, such as Police and MOT guys are betting younger and may not even know what a Ford Cortina is, so probably wont stop it. :d

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Aslong as it's all road legal(MOT/tax/insurance)you would be able to drive around in it forever more I reckon,as it wouldn't show up on ANPR the Police would'nt bother you.

Have a serious accident though and it would probably bite you!:ph34r:

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10 hours ago, CosKev said:

Aslong as it's all road legal(MOT/tax/insurance)you would be able to drive around in it forever more I reckon,as it wouldn't show up on ANPR the Police would'nt bother you.

Have a serious accident though and it would probably bite you!:ph34r:

I think that’s the reason so many incorrectly registered kits and “MK Duttons” are still out there - people just drive them in blissful ignorance and don’t have accidents!

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On ‎19‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 14:45, stephenh said:

25 years ago the rules were very different, and I believe many kit cars of that era are registered as the donor car. I'd agree that a call to DVLA would be sensible.

Mine looks like it was registered to the donor car as it comes back as 1983 0n the log book, but it says Westfield...... It has been on the road every year since it was built, but I'm not sure when that took place.

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On ‎19‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 18:13, Thrustyjust said:

Long time ago my Pre-lit was registered as an Escort and I had over 6 months of grief with the DVLA over what to do. They inspected the car ( well second time round as they forgot the first time !) and it was before the days of computers and emails. So, letters and calls went and nothing. Then I called them and said my road tax had expired and I am going to drive it. The lady then said ' I will change the docs to Westfield and send it back to you, so you can tax it ' :rolleyes:

This was '96 ish , so wont be that simple now sadly.

Looks like a slipped through during the amnesty as it clearly says Westfield on the V5..  

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54 minutes ago, Rob the Red Top said:

Looks like a slipped through during the amnesty as it clearly says Westfield on the V5..  

That’s also common - they sometimes have the donor reg date as the first reg date even though the car was actually built and registered correctly!

I saw all the original documents including SVA cert etc etc for a car “registered” in 1971 as a Westfield. It was 100% legit with all the provenance you could want so must have been a DVLA oversight with donor details at time of registration in the early 90’s. 

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