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Mark Selby

Just had a warm welcome from members of the WSCC - thank you very much. Bought the 250 to build with my teenage boys. Made some progress but running out of manual quickly. Have spent more time getting the garage ready and organised than being able to build the car! We have a short list of jobs we think we can knock off. Guessing we'll spend more time trying to work jobs out than actually using a spanner. Panic is subsiding slightly along with the 'What on earth have I done?' thoughts in the middle of the night. 

 

Pretty unimpressed with the manuals so far and the random way the parts a packed. Would prefer parts picked in modules that match sections of the manual. I.e. box one - front suspension. All you need to complete the front plus steering rack; corresponds to chapters 1 and 2 of the manual... sadly not the case! 

We will endeavour and work it out. Will be grateful for advice from members! I have two teenage boys to keep interested!! 

 

 

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Welcome to the madhouse. As for the random packaging, its all part of the deal. You spend more time sorting through than building. Best way is to empty the whole lot in the garage and put electrical on a shelf, brakes on another, suspension on another etc. 

As for manuals. Forget it . Its a promise so many people have been waiting for. Best bet is to look at 250 builds, which you have been blessed by 2 really well constructed cars from @AdgeC and @sdh2903  . They will give you more information than any manual the factory will never make.

Just take your time and if something doesnt seem right, just stick a photo up here and comment and someone will help you pretty quickly. 

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Ian Kinder (Bagpuss) - Joint Peak District AO

Good luck and enjoy the build

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Adge Cutler- Dorset AO

120 hour build time according to the manual. But need to add in at least 3 times that in thinking time :rolleyes: but that's probably just me!

Fully endorse @Thrustyjust's idea to spend a bit of time sorting things into relevant "heaps". Don't spend to much time striving to identify every last thing though, just have a ? heap. It will shrink as you go through the build. Don't forget to enjoy the build.

Best of luck, please keep us updated on your progress.

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Absolutely agree the manual supplied "IS A GUIDE" you are better off following others build on here.

Yes the parts I have been supplied are a bit random, but this depends on how you have asked for the kit.  I took advise from some of my local club M8's, and have split mine into 2, so have frame/engine etc, to be able to get to the point of having the basics of the car assembled B4 I request the balance from the factory, which is about a 6 week lead time.

I do KNOW for sure the factory are working on a new manual, but its not available ATM.

I'd suggest you do like myself, look at a part of the build, if your not sure, have a cup of tea, and then ask on here. Its a super friendly group and there is no such thing as a daft question.

Get yourself in contact with your local AO and group, best thing I ever did B4 starting my project.

PS we love pictures, the more the better, and :ww:to the club.

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Steve (sdh2903)
1 minute ago, BugMan said:

I do KNOW for sure the factory are working on a new manual, but its not available ATM.

:d:rolleyes: they can't still be spinning that line. The manual was 99% complete in August 2016 apparently. They've not finished the s2000 manual yet.......

Any way welcome! Good to see more of these being built. Any questions fire away. The build blogs are a tremendous resource. The car on the whole is the same as the mega s2000 barring the powertrain and there's loads of build blogs. My build diary is ok but as I did things my own way then things may get cloudy. Best bet is to have a scan at @AdgeC excellent build using the factory complete kit.

The lack of manual can be frustrating but also challenges you to think everything through and as a result you'll learn a lot more about all aspects of the car.

Ask on here no matter how trivial we don't bite! But we do like to be kept fed on a constant stream of build pics.

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Adge Cutler- Dorset AO

@Mark Selby this is a link to various manuals available on line, bit old, but a lot of things are still the same http://www.manikllc.com/manuals/

Bit of a b---ache going through them, but some  good drawings in some,  particularly of suspension assemblies. Perhaps your lads could help looking through them?

Be good to see some photos of your progress. Looks like the panels are on, what about brake and fuel lines? As sdh2903 said, if you're unsure, just let us know what you're aiming to do, and I'm sure we can help with any queries you might have.

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Mark Selby

I think there's some advice somewhere that you shouldn't admit that you had bits done by the factory. I've read some of your build diary and I agree that so far Mark and Ian have been really helpful. 

Thanks for the link to the manuals. I think you're perhaps a bit ambitious thinking my sons might go through them. My 13yr old announced the other day that this was all a bit too much like homework.... I think I may need to work on my engagement strategy...! 

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Build manual well you should be grateful you have something to read and digest no such luck with my C type build , but thats all part of the fun of self building cars 

Enjoy the experience, there is lots of support on here and from local meets

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Adge Cutler- Dorset AO
2 hours ago, Mark Selby said:

I think there's some advice somewhere that you shouldn't admit that you had bits done by the factory.

I don't think anybody on here has any problem with getting bits done by the factory. It can save some early build trauma!

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Chris King
1 minute ago, AdgeC said:

I don't think anybody on here has any problem with getting bits done by the factory. It can save some early build trauma!

Agreed. Never heard that you shouldn’t admit getting help. 

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Chris King

As for build manuals I started an MK at first and the manual was about 10 pages basically said things like “install engine” “ fit Diff” affix steering” etc. 

Comparitively, the Westfield ones are comprehensive!

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3 hours ago, Mark Selby said:

I think there's some advice somewhere that you shouldn't admit that you had bits done by the factory.

Sorry I don't agree with this statement at all, everybody has different levels of abilities and to be able take advantage of factory support if needed seems a great resource, just like this forum and the club members in general. 

My local group have been a fantastic bunch of people who have helped me no end, and even came around to my build to have a look and offer suggestions on what I was doing, and I would count myself as being a pretty competent mechanical engineer. 

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Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Secretary

I can only assume wires got crossed somewhere, or possibly something was meant in jest. Otherwise I can see anyone seriously recommending not admitting to work being done by the factory, or by any other specialist.

As has been said, everyone has different levels of experience, different amounts of spare time, different facilities even. No one should EVER be put off seeking help or assistance whether paid for from Westfield, a local garage or from fellow club members.

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Thrustyjust
1 hour ago, Chris King - Webmaster and Joint North East AO said:

As for build manuals I started an MK at first and the manual was about 10 pages basically said things like “install engine” “ fit Diff” affix steering” etc. 

Comparitively, the Westfield ones are comprehensive!

That could be true Chris. But we pay a premium for building a Westfield, which we would  'hope' includes a comprehensive guide to build it, as they keep banging on about the manual and we get a Zetec one with apart for 95% of paneling , for the S2k and ST cars bears hardly any resemblance. I am sure you didnt spend £18k at MK ? Even then, information in the manual is actually wrong to the build of our cars, so it would be better if they gave nothing out. Without the help of the forum, there is no way I could have confidently built my car with the information from the factory.

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