Terzo204 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I'm going to use the Avon ZZR's for dry's, but I don't believe Khumo are doing the Ecsta V70's in 13/185's in soft any more. They have been discontinuted according to Demon Tweeks What are the alternative 13 inch tyres (for wets) for up to 40 minute races? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Guessing you need a 'List' tyre, Mike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terzo204 Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 Yes. List b or c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Morcom Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 My view is if 1B tyres then no need for wets. If 1C then when I went over to 1C tyres I sought advice and most sprinters reply was... my wets have done a large mileage.....in the trailer and never been used! It really does need a lot of standing water to see the benefit of a dedicated wet tyre. So with cost of tyres and rims for something I would never or hardly ever use I decided not to buy any and I don't think I have missed not having them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 This is for racing though Paul, we'll actually go out on track when it's hammering down I've only ever used what's on my car Mike, so no experience here really - apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terzo204 Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 I race at Pembrey a lot and last year we raced several times in the wet (pouring rain in fact) and so I do need a set of wets. If its just standing water it's semi-slicks all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terzo204 Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 Just now, AdamR said: This is for racing though Paul, we'll actually go out on track when it's hammering down I've only ever used what's on my car Mike, so no experience here really - apologies. Thanks nonetheless Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terzo204 Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 I think the only option might be ZZS? Not sure these are availabel in soft though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Yeah I think compound makes more difference than anything - providing there are enough grooves to prevent aquaplaning. The Nankang NS2R comes in a super soft (80 wear rating) in 15" and 17", not sure if it's available in 13s too? Have used that tyre on MX-5s in some pretty horrendous conditions and it clears pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terzo204 Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 25 minutes ago, Paul Morcom said: My view is if 1B tyres then no need for wets. If 1C then when I went over to 1C tyres I sought advice and most sprinters reply was... my wets have done a large mileage.....in the trailer and never been used! It really does need a lot of standing water to see the benefit of a dedicated wet tyre. So with cost of tyres and rims for something I would never or hardly ever use I decided not to buy any and I don't think I have missed not having them. It's wet in wales! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terzo204 Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, AdamR said: Yeah I think compound makes more difference than anything - providing there are enough grooves to prevent aquaplaning. The Nankang NS2R comes in a super soft (80 wear rating) in 15" and 17", not sure if it's available in 13s too? Have used that tyre on MX-5s in some pretty horrendous conditions and it clears pretty well. I'll do some digging as I saw these and I know some people rate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Sounds good. I think the 'issue' with tyre reviews though is that they are so subjective, ideally need a back-to-back opinion or someone experienced who has used a LOT of tyres in your specific application! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terzo204 Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 Yes you are right Adam, but no one ever wants to share that info! Just found this on the Nankang website "TREADWEAR index: 180 (street) is the only compound now produced by the factory" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Morcom Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Yes if racing then a different need. You are right it can be wet at Pembrey more often than not. Try wrapping sheep round your dry tyres. I only have sprinting experience but Alan Mugglestone has tested some tyres and ended up with Nankangs and rates them highly on his Raw Fulcrum. Though I have heard other say that they are no good. Worth talking to him as he is a professional in the motorsport world, but he may charge you for his advice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Yeah, the AR-1s are in the 80 compound and I have heard they are good for dry sprinting, but are more like ZZR in their tread pattern style (eg. very scant!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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