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Si Richards

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Scott - my donor cost £520, It was a restoration job that had been abandoned. Basically a Midget shell used as a skip for Midget parts.

 

Most of the body panels (and the windscreen!) were sound so I sold them together with dashboard, lights etc and made just over £500 from them. So the net cost of the donor was just £20. Bargain  :t-up:

 

Plus the body parts helped people who were actually restoring Midgets.

 

I was a frequent visitor to the MG Owners' Club shop at Swavesey for the next 18 months. So much so that the staff recognised me and told me that they were impressed I was doing such a  thorough job on my Midget restoration. I never did summon up the courage to tell them...

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Or they might lay in wait for him, before clubbing him to death with their Thermoses, and dragging him off in a wicker picnic hamper for burial in an unmarked inspection pit.   

Norman Verona

Brian, how long ago was that?

 

I haven't seen a sub £2000 Spridget for a while now, even the basket cases. Good cars are now fetching close to £10,000 which makes the basket cases worth restoring.

 

Personally I would get the bits I need from the specialists, buy a 1275 A+ engine from the bay, rebuild it and have a "new" car. 

 

At least Si won't lose his temper getting the king pins out.

 

ed to add that Autotrader has a few sub £2000 cars but all the 1500 triumph engined cars. Cheapest 1275 is £2500. There are, what appears to be, some real bargains to be had.

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Scott Young

Cheers Brian, much appreciated.  I'm sure I wood have kept my mouth shut about the Midget parts as well!  Just saw a Midget yesterday that would have been a great donor, but it looked too well loved.

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jonclancy

You need a 1275 spridget, ideally.  Earlier 1098 cars will be ok, too.  Not the 1500s - all sorts different about those!

 

Budget around a grand or less for the donor.  There are frilly cars still out there that are just uneconomic to restore on a new shell, but would be perfect for your kit.  Strip it, flog what's left on eBay and get at least a few ££ back, even if the shell is horrid.

 

I wouldn't think that buying all the parts separately would really be that much of a saving - think about the core charges for the recon items.  Better off getting the donor parts refurbed to your spec/use as core for remanufactured items (like calipers).  Steering rack etc you can refurb yourself.  Make sure you have enough of the major components needed (per INF26 leaflet) to get issued an age-related plate.  Then, if you wish, I believe you can later change that for a 3 letters/3 numbers cherished plate for the period look.  You won't be able to do this if you are issued with a Q plate. 

 

See these:

 

1098

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-Midget-Roadster-with-hard-top-/190879321117?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c714b4c1d

 

1275 - ask if chassis plates/V5 present

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-MIDGET-RED-/251316705508?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a83a498e4

 

Little Corker!!

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EARLY-1275-M-G-MIDGET-WITH-WIRE-WHEELS-AND-OTHER-NICE-ORIGINAL-FEATURES-/171095191066?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27d6116e1a

 

 

Bit over budget...

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-Midget-1275-1971-mechanically-sound-TAX-EXEMPT-/271252395282?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3f27e71512

 

 

I'd have a go for the wire-wheel car in Ringwood, if I was looking for a donor.

 

Good Luck!!!

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Norman - that was (gasp) 5 years ago.

Of course I would very much like to have done as you suggested but then I would have had a Q plate on the car which I really didn't want. So I diligently cleaned up and used all the really important bits - especially anything with a serial number that linked to the Midget so DVLA could see I had done everything "by the book".

And that's all I'm saying...

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Scott Young

Yep, I'd do it your way Brian, wish I had the time and dosh - I love the XI.

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XI: best car I've ever driven.  Less, definitely, is more.

 

If anyone is contemplating building one... as Nike say... "Just do it!"

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Si Richards

Hi Norman,

Thanks for the offer but Pete is right a little over my budget for donor but if any come about and you here about them I would be most gratefull!!!

Hi Jon

If I didn't know better I would of said you had hacked into my eBay account and had posted my watch list!!! I'm a little aprehensive on the wire wheel as really planned on mini lites or image splits, (not as classy but that's me all over) and assumed that this wouldn't be possible due to the lengths etc? The red up and running one that's currently at £1500 is about 2 miles from my house had a look and its almost a shame to chop it up, actually I lie I'd get the angle grinder on it in the blink of an eye. The hunt is still on I have also seen this one which looked interesting and definitely has a V5: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251316705508?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Thanks for all the posts though guys lots of food for thought.

Cheers Si

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Good luck with the hunt, Si!

 

Just a quick word about Minilites:  I have an original set on my car and the clearance to the rim from the track rod end bolt is absolutely minimal.  Minators (which I believe the factory specify) might be  better option (if you're going to stick with 13" wheels).  Plenty of chat about wheel/tyre size over at the Eleven Register:

 

http://westfield-eleven.org/forum/index.php

 

Cheers

 

Jon

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Nick Algar

I have also been looking at this recently and just missed out on a basket case 998 midget with wire wheels that went for £ 620 on ebay. Another one failed to get £ 420 so they are out there, you just have to look and take your time. I am still slightly undecided knowing what I am like with my love of extreme speed. Not sure if I could actually live with one ? any thoughts those that have got one on the road ?

 

Currently in no rush and it strikes me it's a good idea to get the donor first and spend the time whilst waiting for the kit getting all the parts refurbed that can be, then you can have a smoother build as you will know what is needed.

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Si Richards

Evening all,

 

Well what a day!!!! Woke up this morning and before the alarm clock had been switched off the iPad was up and running and eBay was being searched, and there she was a lovely Midget vastly over my original budget (but lets face it, always best to move the decimal place one if not two places right when you buy stuff!!!) before I knew it I was on the M25 heading for Woking to have a look and all I can say is, I am now the proud owner of a 1968 MG Midget 1275. :t-up:  :t-up:

 

I know before anyone says it, yes its really to good to be a donor car as to be honest its almost immaculate but I decided I would spend a decent sum of cash and know what I was buying rather than spend pennies and end up with an old nadger that needed an arm and a leg spending on it, especially as I am the sort of person that if I didn't have bad luck I wouldn't have any luck!!!! Plus as an added bonus the chap had not long fitted a brand new set of Minotaur Minilites to it :cool:  :cool: :cool:  :cool:  

 

The project has now officially started, I know this for a fact as I have already had to spend 25 minutes at the sink trying to flush rust, oil and other debris from my eyes :cry:  :cry: :cry:  

 

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Scott Young

Congrats!

 

Did you tell the seller what you had planned for his baby or not?  :suspect:  ???  :blush: 

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Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Secretary

God I hope not  :o 

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Oh my that is a beauty, does seem a shame to be breaking her but at least you'll get a decent price for the parts you don't need.

 

Good luck and look forward to watching your progress :t-up:

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steppenwolf

My suggestion that Simon cancelled the order for the Westfield XI and just enjoyed the beautiful Midget was not well received - the words 'Man', 'Old' and 'Senile' (although not necessarily in that order) were heard ....... :down:

 

There wil be hell to pay if I see any family standards slipping in the build quality department though.

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