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Everyone should have one Big, BIG, thanks to @Marto303 and his colleague for helping out tonight

If you have a problem, if no-one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the MH AutosTeam.

JW4 Mk5 IMP - Formula IV / Formula Libre Although his original company had gone bust Johnny Walker was far from ready to quit and with encouragement from Stan Gray and Peter Gerrish he approached automotive engineer Frank Costin and a new company was formed Johnny Walker (Costin) Ltd. Following the demise of the Saab powered project Walker was determined to follow the Imp route like his rivals due to the availability of tuning options. A new design was commissioned from Costin that would later become the Mk6, in the interim though Walker would continue with an evolutionary design; the Mark 5. The Mark5 was a conventional affair and carried over Much from the design of the Mark3 Imp. In formula IV trim the car ran with a a Willie Griffiths tuned 875cc Imp engine and Jack Knight close ratio gearbox, inverted as per usual. The car was also trialled in Formula Libre with a 1000cc Imp engine. To save money Mark3 bodywork was used with cooling entries for the radiator cut into the top surface of the nose and also the undertray. Front wheels were 12" with 13" rears. The JW4 was now unfortunately beginning to show its age, it was technologically behind may of its competitors that were now using all round disc brakes and the conventional nature of the Mark5 did not make it a race winner against the well developed rivals in Vixen or the Aluminium monocoque McNally. Johnny Walker behind the wheel of the JW4 Mark5

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Her in doors bought some furniture and it is ready for collection today. I went in the garage too get the camper out which has been in hibernation since early september ...Except for 1 trip to wicks to get plaster board. I opened the door and holly stink there was a horrible pong!.... First though was that maybe i'd not emptied the waste water... But a quick sniff at the sink and that was fine. Then a quick sniff of the chemical toilet encase i'd forgot to empty it...Fine.. a quick route about but the smell was every where and really acrid. So strong I coun't really say what the smell was. Anyway it only just started. Which i thought was odd as its been on the Ctec since being parked up. Driving to work freezing to death with windows open everytime i closed my window the smell was back, and seamed to engulf me immediately.. It reminded me of my work experience placement at Pembroke petrochemical labs. A real sulfurous smell, i wan't sure if there was a whiff of burning wires in the mix. I had to stop the van and have a fresh Sniff. The smell was everywhere but i thought it was worse at the back of my seat. Envisaging finding something rotting I moved the seat forward and nothing was to be seen. But the battery was roasting hot. I disconnected it lifted it out to see it was also leaking... The condition window looked empty. This battery was the original "petrol" starter battery. When i fitted a TDI engine I also fitted a large battery in the engine bay (at the rear vw T25). So really only the rear battery was needed. But still more batteries the better in my eyes in a camper. So if you go in your garage and there is a horrendous smell don't blame it on the dog, it might be your battery!

I do have a little trouble fitting it now in the garage...

received thanks spot on cheers iain

Don't forget, Thursday 7.00pm at the Ship and a table for 10 booked at the Ghurka for 8.00pm. First beer is on the WSCC, as a final celebration of our 30th anniversary!

well, if the dealer has had it a while and at least 1 deal has fallen through, and it checks out, and you like it. Make him a cheeky offer...!

Could well be holding the can too far away. A pretty good finish is achievable on small pieces with a rattle can. as above heating the can will increase the pressure and make it spray better. I've always found the key is to be fairly quick, avoid putting too little paint on and try to keep the paint "wet" if that makes sense? You want one line to be wet as you spray the next so it sort of blends in. That's what I find works best anyway. This is with rattle cans and petrol resistant lacquer which doesn't give the best finish. Not even flatted and polished it and tbh I don't think I'll bother.

I think the roaring fire and the bacon butties are calling so we will be there Shame about the Cat and Fiddle but the tea rooms are very good too!

Yeah, the other thing I'd want to change smart is how would be the tyres; get a proper grippy type like an R1R or R888R or one over the Avon's, Yokahama's etc on there. And as a dealer, I'd be wanting to see an insurance cover note before letting anyone drive it. (Common enough on high value cars from main stream brands).

could be Dave - you will soon know when the call is made and a viewing sorted V8, loads of torque, road tryes in the winter - I would probably want to cover my own A*** too

@Cleggy the Spyder Man I suggest you put up a thread in the Traders area as well, some people won't have scrolled down this far.

JW4 Mark 4 SAAB During his worldwide travels Walker had received interest from Saab of Sweden who at the time were having considerable rally success. These cars had the Sport 875cc 3-cylinder triple carb 2-stroke engine and Saab calculated that a move into circuit racing with a single make formula would improve their worldwide image. The Imp engined Mark3 was shipped to Sweden for evaluation and an order of 250cars was mooted if the car could be shown to be competitive. Saab were persuaded to pay for the construction of the car in the UK with the engine being installed in Sweden. The First Mark4 chassis was completed quickly and adopted many of the design features of the Mark3 Imp chassis but with additional bracing and triangulation at the rear to support the Saab's cast iron gearbox. The driveline consisted of Saab inboard parts mated to Imp shafts and stub axles. As the Saab engine was shorter than that of the Imp there was room to fit a 5-core radiator between the driver and engine and this combined with the lower height of the engine allowed for a return to the more sleek Mark 2 bodywork. Swedish Rally champion Tom Trana trying the first Mark4 for size. Following a testing accident at Brands Hatch with the first Mk4 a second car was commissioned. The new chassis featured improved rear geometry with equal length arms and longer uprights to hold the now 13" rear wheels. The bodywork of the second car was from the Mark3 as the shorter under-tray avoided the under exhaust system and permitted easier engine access. The Mark4 Saab was raced in both Britain and Sweden and in its time held the class lap record at both Lydden Hill and Mallory Park. In late 1968 the second Mark4 was being shipped back to Sweden when in heavy storms in the north sea a large item of heavy machinery became loose and fell onto the car crushing it. The remains were taken to the Saab competition department but were found beyond repair and scrapped. No further mark4's were built, as Saab decided to withdraw from their proposed formula. The original and first Mark4 lived on and to this day still resides in Sweden with the family of its original driver. The second JW4 Mark4

I might just drop her off and go to the pub instead

That means i will have to drop the wife off at a photo shoot, turn round, drive passed , take photo, turn round , pick up wife and then get told I drove too fast/ left her glasses in the car/ forgot to set her phone right/ drop the phone/ fingers in front of the phone................ delete as many as appropriate

I painted my last kit. it was the first time I'd ever picked up a spray gun so there's nothing like jumping in at the deep end. The old saying 'it's all in the prep'is so so true and I learnt cutting corners just doesn't work. I used cellulose as I wouldn't take the risk with 2k at home. This allowed me to lob loads of paint on and flat it back and cut/Polish to get a reasonable finish. As you say dust is key. I ended up building a polythene cocoon and Jerry rigged a spare radiator fan up as an extractor fan which helped. Since doing the car I've bought a mini detail gun but to be honest ive hardly used it as I've gotten lazy on small bits and reverted to rattle guns or getting stuff powder coated. I enjoyed the process of painting the car and was proud of how it turned out but, it was a HUGE amount of work, lots more than I anticipated and made me appreciate the work done by the pros and the prices they charge. This is how my car turned out With the rattle cans I've found the handles you can buy and a decent nozzle make a difference. That and warm the cans in hot water before use helps smooth it out.

Some great photos in both the calendar and magazine once again. Mission is to get my car in there next year now its finished and yes Scott, I did look at the calendar before the chairmans ramblings

LOL, did smile to myself ref the errrrm tools on display when I dug out the old pic, have graduated to one bl**** big hammer over the intervening 20 years Yep levitating trailer fixed the issue of it turning a double garage to a single, old habits die hard, its held up with cable ties,, John,,, shall we say mission creep turned a simple repair into a full on re build, hopefully the car will be faster as a result

It's OK @Julie (One Careful Lady Owner) - Peak District AOI'll send you a photocopy of each Calendar picture a few days before the Month's start

Right, this thread is going nowhere as fast as a Saturn V rocket. It is clear that strong views are held, that arguments on both sides will never sway the opposite sides, and further input is not only pointless but damaging. Believe whatever you like, but like every Internet thread on the subject, it won't get definitively answered here. This thread is therefore being closed, and unless there is a major revelation in the news, any further threads will be locked and hidden.

Thanks for joining me on the scenic route the meeting today guys, I'll try not to make it such a wet muddy one next time (especially the wet bit)... yes Pistol Pete we found that ford you mentioned. See the revellers amongst you on thursday for the Chrissy bash . Merry Crimble to those aren't going, see you next year.

Hopefully everyone got home ok after the meal, with no hanging off cages! Great food and great company last night, shame a few couldn't make it due to work commitments, Andy, Bob, I've got your 30th t-shirts, I'll let you have them next time I see you.