AdamR Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Hi all, Just a quick one - anyone seen/used one of these before? http://www.allytrailer.co.uk/home Seems like a clever design, I like the idea of something so light that can be stored very easily! Thanks in advance for any input, Adam Edit: Title typing fail, sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamnreeves Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Not twin axle but I see it has 2 wheels each side. Looks very convenient particularily like that you can use it as a ramp to work underneath the car. but a gross weight of 750kgs seems a bit light weight to me, your car would have to be 590kgs or less and most Westfield's are heavier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Williams (Panda) - Joint Manchester AO Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Mine weighed 619 kg with zetec 1.8, heater etc. Nice idea but not for me. Cheers john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamnreeves Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 If it could manage 650kgs then it would really open the market up for them I guess. No prices on the website which I have a pet hate off. My initial reaction is that there is no price structure, grrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Williams (Panda) - Joint Manchester AO Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I was suggested it as I have a size problem, but it not quite there. Cheers John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 They were at Stonleigh IIRC, not the most confidence inspiring thing in the flesh I seem to remember. The car seemed more perched on top of the trailer than anything. I remember thinking the main wheels looked tiny, even for a trailer. Plus it's unbraked, Which makes the allowable tow car/load combinations a lot more limited. The bolt to undo and tab for the tilt mechanism seemed a little fiddly too. They weren't particularly forthcoming about price at the show either, Once you dragged some costs out of them, they weren't particularly cheap, a figure around £1900 sticks in my mind. The concept is a good one, just seemed that too much emphasis had been placed on making it unbraked etc. And that the pay off of using it as an impromptu car ramp wasn't worth the compromises. Mind you, I've probably been spoiled, borrowing a twin axle Woodford in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedditchJay Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Good concept..... cant carry the weight and doesnt look sturdy....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 If it could manage 650kgs then it would really open the market up for them I guess. No prices on the website which I have a pet hate off. My initial reaction is that there is no price structure, grrrr To tow under the 750 kg unbraked limit, does that mean the maximum weight of car carried is 590 kg? (That also means you need a 1.5 tonne or heavier tow car, - the trailer and load shouldn't be over half the weight of the tow car) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedditchJay Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 best just stick to the known named brands like Brian James which can {some models} fit into a standard garage anyway and then just park the car on top... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetstu Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 (That also means you need a 1.5 tonne or heavier tow car, - the trailer and load shouldn't be over half the weight of the tow car) The actual percentage recommended is no more than 85% to kerb weight, and the caravan club advise if at all possible stay below 70%. If it was 50% then most of the white boxes been dragged about would not be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 I think the legal ratio of car:trailer weight varies depending on if the trailer (and cargo) is braked or not? Something like that anyway. I would be pretty close to the limit on both gross weight for the trailer (car is approx 620kg at the mo but I want to put it on a diet) and towing car weight (about 1550kg with me in). Anyway - thanks for the comments gents, looks like the hunt for a Minno Max is still on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetstu Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 sorry I should have said braked towing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 (That also means you need a 1.5 tonne or heavier tow car, - the trailer and load shouldn't be over half the weight of the tow car) The actual percentage recommended is no more than 85% to kerb weight, and the caravan club advise if at all possible stay below 70%. If it was 50% then most of the white boxes been dragged about would not be possible. The figure was from the DoT website the 50% rule is for UNBRAKED trailers; hence my point that I think they've concentrated too much on the light weight aspect to get it down under the 750 kg inc load limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 TBH, like I said, I do think they've had a good idea originally, maybe just got a bit side tracked in the design stages; I did feel sorry for them when I was having a chat on the Stoneleigh stand as they seemed to be getting a little bit of a rough ride as far as feedback from possible customers went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul D Turner Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 When I towed the seven back in the 90's I had a Mk 2 Golf GTi. The max towing weight quoted in the handbook was 1250kg (1.25 tonnes I guess) and the covered trailer (not a light one) with car on it weighed close to that. Used it like that for 7 seasons with no problems but the kerb weight of the Golf was 980kg thus I was towing 125% of the car weight with no problems. Golf Mk3 TDi 90 coped just as well. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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