Stevec33 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Im on the hunt for a westy and would ideally like a high spec 2.0 n/a engine but im struggling to find what im looking for at the money i want to spend. I have however seen a cosworth turbo one for fairly sensible money and thought this may be a good option, its only standard spec power wise. I was just looking for some opinions on how they drive and if the turbo style power delivery works well in them or if it just to much when the boost come's in. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Pretender Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 There's a video on youtube of a westy cosworth turbo. To be fair, it's very highly tuned and, I imagine, very well engineered and ridiculously fast - clearly very difficult to manage. This doesn't really help you but is fun to watch (if you haven'y already seen it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevec33 Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 Thanks for that, its a great video and i had allready seen it, that car is nuts i read the build thread on it and have seen it at a trackday in action also. I wouldnt be considering one at that power level! I was thinking a basic 260-300 hp setup would be well plenty in a westy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosKev Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Standard T3 turbo on it? Shouldn't be too bad at standard power level imo,they are quite laggy and don't run a lot of boost. Start to mod them then they would be a handful! My old Saph Cosworth was 406bhp/426 lb ft and would go sideways in 4th gear at 100mph on a damp road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanDud Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Why do the Ford boys all use turbo's that are really old technology, ie basically crap, really crap compared to a modern GTX or similar? on a 2ltr motor a GTX2860 would provide almost instant spool up and a reliable 330-350hp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTR2Turbo Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I had a factory zei220 which used the green top cps worth turbo It was very fast and fun to drive but imho not the best engine for the car because it is quite heavy and generates a lot of heat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Jones Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 With a small turbo on a busa running a low-ish level of boost is fine although coming out of slow corners has been an issue in mine when competing. Above say 250bhp you start to run into issues controlling the increase in torque (both traction & throttle control) and practically it's too much for road use and it can be pretty frustrating making progress on busy track days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Kinder (Bagpuss) - Joint Peak District AO Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 There's a nice' moment' in the above video around 1m22secs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanDud Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 There's a nice' moment' in the above video around 1m22secs yeah and he knows what he's doing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff oakley Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 A few years ago there was one in the West Country that spent more time going backwards off the road than anything. It was blisteringly fast in the dry but in anything but dry it was so easy to break traction and once the Turbo spooled up it was all over. This was not a standard engine but even before he went for big power it was a handful. If driven carefully it will be fine but that sort of negates having one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigHew Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 This one's been on PH for a few months now.... http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/westfield/other-models/westfield-mega-megabusa-turbo-540-bhp/2641718 Clearly no takers. Might be a nice test-drive though....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 This one's been on PH for a few months now.... http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/westfield/other-models/westfield-mega-megabusa-turbo-540-bhp/2641718 Clearly no takers. Might be a nice test-drive though....? Not really surprised, going by the pictures and description. i get the whole lawn mower sticking out the bonnet bit for competition cars that simply need every last competitive drop of performance out of a specific engine/gearbox combo. But really, half the engine outside the floor plan of the car, including all the very, very hot bits? Also, a chocolate roll bar on a supposedly > 600 bhp Westfield? Have spoken to a few of the (big power Holeshot) turbo Busa owners at trackdays, (while those that competed in them as well were a lot more forgiving), those that had just bought them rather than built all seemed to openly regret it really. The one guy Id spoke to that did build it was talking about down grading it, he reckoned he was around 440bhp and was talking about taking 100 off, back down to the 300's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevec33 Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 I have seen one for sale at the standard power output, not really bothered about having one with loads of power just a nice standard or mildly tuned amout would be plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosKev Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I would guess a nice na engine woukd be a nicer road car. As the Cosworth is laggy and quite low compression engine, so gutless until the turbo boosts, which is pretty late in the throttle position. If you tune them on a standard turbo the lag does not improve, you just get a much bigger level of boost once it kicks in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevec33 Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 The thing is to get a nice westy with 220-250 bhp as a 2.0 n/a car they start to become serious money as the engines cost so much to get the power from. Just weighing up some different options of different engines and doing some research at the minute as ive got a budget in mind and im struggling to find what im looking for in a 2.0 n/ car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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